Results matching “Topix” from Susan Mernit's Blog

Noted: What Tolles said to Google

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"Total local stories per day 22,293
Number of populated US ZIP codes 32,500

We started by trying to add more sources. We added government, weather and industry sources, and then we added 25,000 blogs to the mix to see what we'd get. And, pretty much, they still didn't provide the breadth of coverage around local news, especially around small towns.

Don't like the news? Make some of your own!"

-- Topix.net CEO Chris Tolles, commenting on Google's rollout of GLocal, a similar set of l ocal news services--cept the G's are limited to aggregated feeds, and Topix has UGV forums.

Quote of the Day

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"It's going to take more than one company to rebuild the local newspaper from the ground up."

--VC Fred Wilson, writing about Adrian Holovaty's just launched hyperlocal aggregator and service, EveryBlock, and about his investment in Outside.In.

(Susan sez: This is a Knight News Challenge grant project and it's exciting to see how it's refining ideas from Craigslist, Topix and others.)

Quote (s) of the Day

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"Even though we were seeing eye-to-eye on what needed to be done, after the press tour and some initial conversation about where we needed to go, Rich told me that he wasn't having as much fun right now, and looking at what we needed to do, didn't see much opportunity for what he really loves to do -- architect from the metal on up and put out the 1.0 that is so far ahead of everything else - the first computer virus, one of the first MUD's, NewHoo/dmoz, Topix - that even his no good co-founders couldn't screw things up."

And

"Strap in, it's going to be fun."

--New topix CEO Chris Tolles, explaining co-founder and now ex-CEO Rich Skrenta's decision to move up to the board and put Chris in charge.

(Susan sez: Full disclosure is I am friends with these guys from waay back, so this is a totally biased post.)

My friend Rich Skrenta has a typically cogent post up, only this time it's not about the Google OS, it's about the me-too and I don't wanna be left out network effects of digerati flocking to Facebook. In particular, Rich notes how the switching cost is pretty low for most SN services.

Some quotes:
"In an environment where travel is free and instantaneous, you get flash mobs.
If a place is cool, or new, or interesting, you go there to check it out.
A place might be interesting simply because there are a lot of other people there at the moment. "

and

"It's easier than ever to move from one service to another. Blog reader? No problem. Photo site? I have accounts on all of them anyway. Social networks? Yeah I'm signed up on all of them. I use the ones everyone else is using, at the moment. Just like we all do. The rest have a stub profile for me, but don't see much activity."

Susan sez:
The portal play was to embed all your apps and tools in one place as a way to hold you there(think AOL on the web).
The social network play was to have you collect all your connections to hold you there (think LinkedIn.)
The widgety-goodness way (I just can't write Web 2.0 one more time!) is to try to get the users to aggregate their tools, services, and connections in one place (think Facebook today).

That's all cool but the other thing web businesses need to think about, besides widgets, is the identity issue--the services that can figure out aggregating tools and services --like Facebook is--will grow, but the ones that can also figure out identity management--as in multiple identities and layers of privacy--can leap ahead.



Just came from the Rich Skrenta/ Gabe Rivera/Ted Shelton/Oliver Muoto panel, moderated by Charlene Li at the web 2.0 expo on the topic of Media 2.0 and emerging technologies, revenue models and audiences.
Notes and comments from that session follow:

The alt title of this panel might be geeks who love media and the question of the day is “where is next generation aggregation and media going?”

Rich's spiel is that folks don't appreciate the newspapers subsidize the 4th estate more efficiently than blogging, even as the Net siphons business and readers from print.

Ted Shelton (Personal Bee/Technorati) says that is view of media 2.0 is that whole new range of people are going to star thinking of themselves as publishers a and as content aggregators and or curators—the best things for the right audience at the right monument.

(Susan sez: This is personalization isn't it?)

  • Everyone agrees that one big shiny brass ring is to do the best job of filtering UGC and pro content and giving people what they want in a smart roll up.
  • In other words, delivering that content to people within roll ups and aggregators
  • And personalizing or delivering the right content to the right people
  • And working out the revenue model and the costs.

Some discussion: Muoto Google is considered the 800 lb gorilla, but small businesses have a lot of problems with ad words and ad sense—they are too complicated to use and keywords can be too expensive. There is room for improvement—not everyone is online buying advertising.

Shelton: How do we help brand advertisers take advantage of the Internet? Google does not (yet), addressed this.

Charlene asks Gabe and Rich: How did you build your audience?
Rich highlights how advertisers want small zip code segments and how that problem isn't solved—yet.


Gabe says that TechMeme is about the links—the relationships—and growth has been driven by experiencing useful links as part of a larger web.

Ted Shelton (relentlessly plugging Technorati (already!) points out Technocrat's virtuous circle of tools and content roll ups—but also adds that his new employer got into this early and it is HARD to get traction in the audience—or to get customers.


Muoto says the novelty effect is great, but too limited. “It is easier for people who are stars to rise to the top and get recognition.” (Susan sez: What does that mean?)

Charlene: Innovation comes from unique perspectives, early in the space. The big players may not have the speed or even the capability. What do bigcos need to do differently?

Skrenta: For big cos to be nimble it's much more difficult to get things done. Having said that, Yahoo, in particular, has some very interesting businesses inside of it like Yahoo! Local and Yahoo! Groups—this is old stuff but it's a compelling opportunity for local community—but if you can't unify groups and message boards into the local services how can you move quickly enough to win?

Shelton says innovation is about big cos doing innovation but big companies can stifle smaller ones (he cites Caterina Fake's example of her niece squeezing her pet hamster to death from an excess of love).

There's more discussion about reaching audiences—Rich affirms that Google search is everyone's start page; Gabe reminds us that many of the tech driven Media 2.0 start ups don't have a persistent, lasting value—the founders were “too in love with the technology.”
Muoto says audience development is the most important problem facing small web businesses.”

Shelton: The mobile internet is going to put the final nail in the coffin of media. Ubiquitous mobile devices will finish off newspapers.

The talk continues for the alotted hour, but the (large and diverse) audience seems sluggish; interested in business models and specific tips more that high level issues, I suspect.


Topix founder and leader Rich Skrenta, is explaining Topix's shift in product direction and presentation unveiled today at topix.com in a terrific blog post that's all about listening to users and reinventing a product--but not changing the technology under the hood.

Basically, the site has re-launched with an emphasis on hyper-local citizen journalism, forums and blogs--all the gnarly community bits newspaper find it so hard to do.



The local content bits are wrapped in services--like classifieds, and aggregated feeds, and those goshdarn Google ads are ever present. Editing and hiearchy are organized like the Open Directory, which Rich helped start, and there is no home page--you roll your own with your handy-dandy zip code of choice.

Susan sez: I love Topix, always have, and think this new play is so disruptive to other emerging efforts out there-- NowPublic and Placeblogger come to mind, along with every portal and newspaper vision of how to drill down on local and get the secret sauce (yes, I mean this could be a super platform, kids). Those automated feeds and results ain't going away, they're just being wrapped in a more expensive to commoditize wrapper.

Rich has a neat lift of comments on the relaunch, re-posted here for your convenience:



Alex Iskold has a piece at Read/Write Web that explores Technorati as a tool for measuring popularity in the blogosphere and then describes what's popular right now by analyzing the top 50 blogs listed by Technorati.

Reading Alex's piece, which Richard edited, so many off the mark assumptions leapt out at me, I needed to write this post.

According to Alex, "Tech is the number one focus of popular blogs. Politics is second and pop culture third, which clearly gets a lot of attention both off line and online."

That's all fine, but I'd suggest that this is only the case because we're not in the middle of an election race--and that the minute the Presidential elections--or any other hotly contested political battle-kick in, these stats will flip, big time.

Furthermore, looking at the top blogs misses the singular impact of the long tail and the aggregate value of networks.

While it's true that that highest common dominator as described by Technorati stats is political, tech/consumer tech and pop culture blogs, I'd argue there's a significant readship and interest in parenting blogs(mommy blogs in particular), gossip blogs (does pop culture cover that?), erotica and sex blogs, and DIY, crafting and design blogs that Technorati stats--somehow so persistently squewed toward what geeks read--consistently fail to account for.

I bet that if you could compare Technorati stats with Topix and Feedburner stats, for example, you'd get a very different picture of the sum total of what was popular in the blogosphere--and it would be a more accurate view.

(Susan sez: I understand Technorati is measuring links to blogs to derive the top 100, my point is that there are other, more accurate measures writers like Alex should take into consideration--or, put another way, generalizations can be inaccurate.

Interestingly, when I run a search for Mommy blogs on Technorati, I get 388 results back as blog posts, but when I run the same search on Google BlogSearch I get 271,743 results for mommy blogs--Now, I realize that neither one of these is counting very accurately, but it's a heads up.

And when I typed in politics blogs on Google BlogSearch, there were 221,295 results (for posts) compared to Technorati's total of 24,582--the point being, even as I acknowledge the different ways that Technorati and Google Blogsearch compute and present their totals, that Technorati is no longer be presenting the most complete and accurate picture of behavior in the blogosphere--and hasn't been for a while.)

So Alex's piece is an interesting exercise in deconstructing Technorati stats--but not the bellweather for blogosphere topics, readers, or even what's truly popular beyond the eternal top ten --or in this case top 50--list.

I'd value seeing Richard follow up with another analysis of what people are actually reading and writing in the blogosphere across a broader range of categories and then work backwards to tell us what analytical tools are most clearly measuring that behavior--how about it--a true look at where readers--and writers--are putting effort beyond the greatest common denominators.

(Provocative) Quote of the Day

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"...the hopes that Dan Gillmor raised for the media industry in his book -- which kicked off this whole business -- have largely failed."

--Rich Skrenta, Topix CEO, writing in his blog about what he describes as the * failure* of the We Media conference in Miami this past week on the basis that the *new* online news paradigms have not succeeded in the business world--and that, in fact, participatory media is, by very definition, uncommercial.

Rich also says (in that admirably blunt, Skrenta way): "The dog's breakfast of new media startups includes Gather, Backfence, Newstrust, Daylife, TailRank, Associated Content, Pegasus News, Tinfinger, Findory, Inform, Newsvine, Memeorandum, NowPublic. ....And yes, I would include Topix here as well. ....But, we can face it, even we haven't yet burned down the world, or upended the news industry."

Susan says: I don't personally believe that participatory journalism is, by definition, non-commercial--I just think the business rules will continue to shift, in ways we can't yet see (where are those great micropayments systems everyone wanted for bloggers a few years ago--are publishing networks the 2007 equivalent?)

But Rich's comments always capture my attention--as does this bonus quote from Mark Glaser:
"Thanks to the audience taking control of their media experience and creating their own media in blogs, podcasts, video and social networks, the people who are losing control have decided to meet — and meet, and meet again — until they figure out how they can take back some control of this uncontrollable situation. "

If I could have taken the time off from work, I would have gone to this conference--and formed my own opinion--but meanwhile, am still digesting what looks like a lot of blogosphere negative comments--and wondering how many layers and levels of Old Guard/New Guard came into play at this event.

Polite disclosure: I was a fellow of an earlier version of ifocus, and know lots of the people in this discussion...and am fascinated both by the criticisms of the conference and Rich's higher-order observations (and wondering how they fit together.)

It was great to see all the links and write-ups that Lisa William's Placeblogger received; there was one aspect of the service that I'm very interested in that I didn't have a chance to get into in my earlier post, that I want to talk about now, and that is the open source, structured directory aspect of the service.
In an interview with ClickZ for a story about the service, I said: "I would like to see Placeblogger become the geographical equivalent of something that was powerful early on; the open directory, the first peer-edited, user generated directory for search. DMOZ became the semantic structure for all the search structures that Yahoo and Google used, and it was open source. Placeblogger has an opportunity to become an open source user generated directory of local sites and services."
To expand on that idea, IMHO Placeblogger could evolve into a meta-directory of local sites with a series of regional advisors who funnel sites into the (highly structured) database, a dedicated core of Placebloggers who supply feeds and new links, an API that allows redistribution, mash-ups and new product development, a Creative Commons license that supports third-party--and commercial development--and the means to be one of the platform tools fuleing a new wave of local--and potentially self-service advertising platforms, targeted right down to the zip code.
It's no accident that Topix.net, one of my very favorite locally-focused search/display products, was co-founded by folks who were part of the Open Directory team, but now, as a privately owned service, Topix has their own plans for world domination--or at least, product excellence, that do not (to my kmowledge) focus on platforms and open source.
My hope is that Placeblogger, in its own (admittedly) smaller and more hand-crafted way, can take some lessons from the Open Directory and become the core resource for blogs and other data sources with very specific local identities, affinites, and services. (And just think of how such a service can fit with yellow pages and other enhanced directories, especially when you factor in the community services....)

My friend Lisa Williams is about to launch Placeblogger, an OPML-based aggregator that will be a directory of local blogs--blogs focused on a place, not neccessarily news blogs--around the country.
Now Steve Berlin Johnson, one of the more reflective writers I read, announces that's he's got a stealth local start-up called outside.in--a service that aggregates local news, blogs and other feeds into one handy-dandy destination page (a fulsome example is at 11217--Park Slope, Brooklyn, where Johnson lives)--Palo Alto seems a little, uh bare right now).
Like Backfence, the too-early Bayosphere, and dozens of local news-focused sites like BaristaNet (Montclair, NJ), outside.in will try to generate value for a local community and serve as the starting point and destination.

The difference between outside.in and some of these earlier sites, however, is that rather than serve as a place to create and post content (think stable of writers model) these new sites use feeds, tagging and GEO-URL to create a service that can aggregate and therefore serve as the epicenter of local user generated content--in other words, something more similar to what Topix has been tryng to do with its local local content (see Palo Alto in their planet here and Park Slope here).

Susan sez: It energizes me to see efforts to get local *right* come round and round again as the tools and users evolve. Back in the early mid to late 90s, we did New Jersey Online, a local site with news, forums, and personality, then truly local sites like BaristaNet popped up in the 00s and newspapers improved their skin in the game, and then we got into the citizen journalism thing big time and lots of efforts faltered a bit as others worked--and now here's the latest placeblogging incarnation starting to develop and it is going to be very interesting.

Susan sez 2: The ever-more techy site of me has to point out the intense value of companies like Yahoo supporting their efforts through a rich series of APIs. One obvious implication of these aggregator sites is that the do ride on tools--and APIs- developed by others, so the importance of haing local APIs and making them available to people working at this level is critical. (Imagine if say a big web FooBar business decided to have a rich API and offer it to placebloggers and the placebloggers all created local APIs driving back to that business and just think how much that business might gain in distribution and referral if all these emerging hyperlocal bloggers picked the feed up...and...you get the drill.)

And then of course there is the business woman part of me which is constantly interested in how to support local, targeted advertising--the sweet spot of all this growth.

So, the ever-shifting continuance of local and the rise of placeblogging are great--and may a thousand flowers--and many more placeblogs--flourish.

BONUS: Steve has some points about placeblogs worth repeating:
1. It's all about hyperlocal.
2. A post can be local, even if the blogger isn't (and therefore worth aggregating)
3. Neighborhoods are more important that maps.
4. Geo-tags and location-aware tags are good, but it's also important to have other filters-- date, for example.
5. Local news often has a long-shelf life.

Chris Tolles has a post today about Topix's recently outed free classifieds network,who empowers local users to post for sale items in the Topix network. The adss are free and featured on local news papers (they have 30,000 of those)--and they'remonetized by one of the best usages of Google Ad Words on the planet.

Chris says: "The key to making this work, as Jeff Jarvis rather tartly points out, is a lot of local traffic. With over 7M unique visitors, spread out pretty evenly geographically, we are getting great pickup. We're getting great traction on our forums -- 8,000 posts a day, with real diversity (not just the Web 2.0 crowd). The new Topix classified ad system is growing at a similar pace."

Susan says: As GoogleBase rolls on, other option become pretty interesting--not as ways to beat newspapers ( Craig did that), but as vast aggregated distributors of structued data AND tagged content. Put Technorati, edgeio and others into the soup and wonder who the next leader in combining structured data and free text tagging might be--and what kind of classifieds system triumph that could lead to.

The AP reports that The McClatchy Co. has reached a deal to buy Knight Ridder Inc for about $4.5 billion in cash and stock, the companies announced Monday. McClatchy will also assume about $2 billion in Knight Ridder's debt and plans to sell 12 of Knight Ridder's 32 newspapers, including The Philadelphia Inquirer, The Philadelphia Daily News and the San Jose Mercury News.
I'm wondering what will happen to the digital assets-- ShopLocal, Topix and KRD corporate development--will they remain intact, be moved to Sacramento, or be broken apart?

So how does Rich assess CL vs paid dating listings, a la Y ! Personals and Match.com? Some snippets of his POV here:
"The personals column competes with Match.com, eHarmony, and other dating sites. But it's got something they don't. A riveting editorial column written by the users. "
And, as Rich points out, Craig has lots more links on his home page to personals categories.
(Susan says true, but as users know, the very randomness of CL dating often makes the results (i.e. people you meet) as surprising as the posts.)

Rich's final quote:
" ...who else attacks so many different businesses on a single hompage? Online dating, events, real estate, apartments, forums, used cars, community, jobs. OMG... Yahoo. "

Gotta love that Rich, how true is that? LOL.

The incomparably smart Rich Skrenta deconstructs Craiglist's succeess in a post that's a must-read for anyone interested in classifieds, citizen journalism, the semantic web and viral marketing/local. A snippet:
"Craig's lead-into-gold trick is that he gets his posters to accurately classify their spam. Into 160 categories. Holy Toledo Jacob Nielsen. You can't have a pulldown with 160 things in it. Half of your users wouldn't get a pulldown with 3 things in it right. Ah, but it's not a pull-down. Half of the entire homepage is a giant selector devoted to classifying posts.
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Booting up new cities should be very hard, maybe taking years like the main SF site took. But there's another set of seed material to help new Craigslist cities get going. The discussion forums. These are global across all the Craigslist cities. If you go to perth.craigslist.com and click on 'transit', you're going to read about SF Muni. But fortunately many of the categories, like 'kink', travel well. So there is plenty of discussion on a brand new Craigslist city to look at even when nobody from the new town has contributed anything yet. "

As usual, Rich is sharp, incisive and original--folks, take note.

Topix's Rich Skrenta's got an outstanding post on citizen journalism, alogrithmic news, and media going on--a must read.
Some snippets:
"The quality of journalistic output today is, for the most part really really good. In fact it's too good. The product costs a huge amount to bring to market, and what the Internet enables is a an alternative product built for zero, and providing a different value proposition. Citizen journalism is going to be more Citizens and less Journalism. "
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"Creating a local news page for every town in the US provided us with a set of local audiences for thousands of towns... towns where people who use AOL and have never heard of Web 2.0 live. These people want to tell their stories too. You don't need to know what a blog is to want to tell your story online, and you don't need a journalist to tell you how either, it turns out.
We've been astonished at many of the posts we've had. There is much of the normal chatter you'd find on message board comments (which we think is just great), but there are also many first-person accounts of news events from across the country. More than we expected, frankly. In places like Valley Center, CA, Hickory, NC, Redford, MI, Hillborough, NC, Lake Butler, FL, Hershey, PA, and Livermore, CA. Some of these reports are very raw and heart-wrenching. But we're glad we were able to offer a place for these conversations to occur. "

Susan sez: Rich is a ground-breaker, and this is something important to watch.,and participate in.

"Blogs and news are now on equal footing on Topix.net," says Topix CEO Rich Skrenta, who reports that Topix has added 15,000 blogs to its index, and offers an inside look at a question that intrigues the Topix guys: "Are blog posts news?"
To figure that out, Rich and co. took a look at the coverage of key categories--news, sports, entertainment, etc.--but mainstream media and blogs, decided blogs added a lot to the mix, and then crawled (he says) about 1 MM blogs to build a list of the 15,000 now incorporated into the Topix index. He's got some interesting charts and some fascinating data, including the fact that 85-90% of the daily posts hitting ping services such as weblogs.com are spam--and now visitors to pages like US News and Wierd News can see the blog posts highlighted alongside the other feeds.

AOL--Top news destination

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Paid Content: "While the unique audience of AOL News is about 29% smaller than Yahoo News, AOL News is more than 2.4 times larger than Google News and almost 6.8 times larger than Topix.net." Story here.

Greg Jarboe says this moves AOL news into the top ranks--but AOL News has always been huge--now it's getting bigger.

I know I should be amazingly cool and pretend that it didn't give me a total thrill to meet Google's Krishna Bharat, but that would be a lie. Meeting Krishna and chatting with him will definitely be one of the high points of the trip (another might be sitting cross-legged in the Korean Folk Village eating kim chee and ribs with Rich Skrenta and his wife--nothing like travelling 6,000 miles to dine with your neighbor from California).
Anyway, Bharat is smart, refreshingly low-key and very passionate about Google News and the service's committment to provide multiple viewpoints on an event via story clusters.

Chatting, Skrenta asked Bharat if they had any plans to index more video. Bharat said no, but pointed out that Google News is indexing some podcasts (?)--or at least the text transcripts that link to podcasts (think NPR). Currently based in Bangalore, Bharat still oversees Google News, but has also been hiring for a small Google engineering office in Bangalore.

Takes on Topix

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Had lunch last week with Topix guys Rich Skrenta and Chris Tolles at their beautiful Palo Alto offices (like, above the trophy shop). The conversation ranged from work focus post-acquisition to the legal issues around packaging up feeds.
For those who are interested in learning more about this very nimble company, some info from the talk:

  • Topix.net is an active packager and redistributors of local content and news feeds, as well as a growing force in providing aggregated local news.
  • Topix has 150,000 topically based, micro-news pages and more than 2.8 MM unique users.
  • There are roughly 187,000 My Yahoo subscribers, 190,000 CitySearch subscribers, and 7,000 Bloglines subscribers reading their feeds.
  • More than 10,000 sources are spidered--to acquire and categorize the data, Topix spiders, aka indexes, sites on an indexing list and leaves behind aTopix.net URL in the log files that shows the site was crawled.
  • The robot spider is blockable if source wishes. If access is given, takes headlines and digest.
  • A URL is left behind showing the spider was there. The spider can be blocked with a simple command.
  • Over past 15 month of operations, only 4 sources have opted out.

  • 2,000 content entities have contacted Topix and requested inclusion in the crawl list.
  • Commercial distribution arrangements are in place with AOL, Ask Jeeves and Infospace, bundling headlines and digests of content and supplying them out.
Skrenta says that they want to become THE local home page for news around the US, as well as a major revenue driver for local advertising, but that they are also deeply involved with partner strategies (no surprise given they were just acquired by three newspapers).

Susan sez: It's going to be very interesting to see how Topix.net development progresses, given that they are lean team (10 people) with three big parent companies that probably have a well-developed wish list already on the table.


So Topix's Rich Skrenta read my post and came up with some fascinating data of his own re topix and bloglines, including the fact that "Topix.net has 187k subs total on My Yahoo, compared with 7k on Bloglines."
Rich also says "Our knitting feed is our 12th most popular feed; quilting is #10."
List of all topix feeds is here.

Susan says: Larger implications of feed packaging and redistribution continue to be interesting...both from an ad perspective (think of the revenue these feeds could carry and who gets the $$) and from a licensing/permissions perspective...either way, Rich, this is so interesting.

Dave Weinberger says: Confusability is scraping bloglines and noticing how people are categorizing feeds. Among the first 100 most popular folder names on Bloglines are:

  • blogs
  • news
  • tech
  • Technology
  • People
  • Politics
  • friends
  • comics
  • blog misc
Plus--here's a list of the top subscribers to feeds on Bloglines--their subscription names, number of feeds, and number of folders they have.
Interestingly, topix is #3--with 3109 feeds in 17 folders, preceeded by Renwar (Chia Renwar?) and Divedi

Among the Bloglines feed consumers that I recognized are scobelizer(1085), Phil Wolff (813), George Kelly (764), Enoch Choi(759) and A ndrew Nachison (712).
Someone has a list of 3,000+ blogspot feeds.




Embargoes: Biro deconstructs

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Q: When is an embargo not an embargo?
A: When a major news organization breaks it, cause they can.
Tom Biro gets down and dirty into the Topix.net story, the news embargo and the practice of--well--keeping agreed-upon secrets.
If embargoes matter to you, this is an interesting write-up.
If not--well, go have some coffee.

Topix: $5 mil or $50 mil?

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Jeff Clavier fisks the Topix numbers and comes up with some theories. He writes :"There are enough whispers of the return of a bubble in the RSS/new media world to try and figure out whether this was a $5M or a $50M deal (see, I am not the only one wondering). And then quotes Bambi Francisco saying that Topic was valued between $50 and $100 million. Jeff writes:
"So we have confirmation that a large part of the consideration went to the shareholders of the company - allowing them to partially cash out, and a small portion went to the bank as operating cashflow. Great deal (somewhat similar to the MySpace financing where the original owner partially cashed out, and the co got some cash). Back to the original feeling of delight for these guys, etc.

However the valuation seems... rich."

I spoke with someone last night who has another emerging tech company who was thrilled about this deal...it makes his company, like the others on Rafat Ali's best bets for buyouts list, seem all the more valuable.

CEO Skrenta lays the deal out.
PR rep Rubel weighs in, along with Malik, Battelle, Hammock, Ali, and Jarvis.

Update: Bambi Francisco, Marketwatch: "Topix.net would not disclose the terms of the deal, only to say that the funding was less than $5 million. The capital will be used by the nine-person team, partly to give a salary to the founders, who hadn't paid themselves in three years."

Clarification: Valuation for Topix.net is rumored to be way higher than Bloglines. If the $$ rumors are right, the founders should be feeling pretty, pretty good.

Earlier today, Tony Gentile had a rumor that Topix.net was acquired by Knight-Ridder--it's true.
Knight Ridder, in partnership with the Tribune Media Company and Gannett, has acquired 75% of Topix.net for an undisclosed amount.
I spoke with Rich Skrenta, Topix CEO and founder, and he told me that the deal would allow Topix to remain as an independent entity based in the Valley--and deploy their skills across the KRD-Trib-Gannett platform.
The press release states: "Topix.net will use content and funding from Gannett, Knight Ridder and Tribune to expand and refine its NewsRank technology, services and operational infrastructure. ..Collectively, Gannett, Knight Ridder and Tribune operate more than 140 newspaper Web sites with nearly 30 million unique visitors monthly. The companies have partnered together in other joint ventures such as ShopLocal.com and CareerBuilder.com."

This is an awesome event for the (self-funded) Topix guys, and an amazingly shrewd move by these newspaper partners--for far less than the NYTimes, they've acquired a resource that will help them launch and create local feeds, monetize text ads far better than Google AdWords can off the shelf, and help make them a leader in the search, local and RSS spaces.
The deal also plays well with Knight-Ridder's recent acquisition of 5 local daily newspapers in Silicon Valley, including the Palo Alto Daily News. If Topix.net's talent is to aggregate and categorize local feeds, then these newspapers are both prime content for Topix and a potential platform for a new targeted local business--not a bad plan. And if KRD and partners are willing to take a run at adding citizen journalism--watch out!

So folks, maybe old media ain't so old anymore.

P.S. Plus, this is disruptive to the other companies (and there are many) pitching their search and RSS services to newspaper partners, who now see 3 of the big ones locked up...and to the big aggregators who now find online news business are alive and kicking still.

The big annual newspaper industry conferences are this weekend -- Vin Crosbie explains why he won't be there and Pegasus News chimes in.
Meanwhile, there will be moblogging (RSS) from the IFRA newspaper techniques team, and a blog from The Digital Edge of the NAA for and by conference participants.
I read through the sessions and could not find anything about RSS, newsreaders, or social media.
Or Craigslist, Tribe or Bakotopia. Or hyperlocal citizen journalism.
Or local vertical search.

Parallel universe?

Lucovsky: Building a Google OS

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Via Emergic.org, a pay-attention post from Mark Lucovsky, former Microsoft distinguished operating system architect, now Google engineer, on what it means to ship software:
" I am not sure I believe anymore, that Microsoft 'knows how to ship software'. When a Microsoft engineer fixes a minor defect, makes something faster or better, makes an API more functional and complete, how do they "ship" that software to me? I know the answer and so do you... The software sits in a source code control system for a minimum of two years (significantly longer for some of the early Longhorn code)...(snip)..In many cases, particularly for users working in large corporations, they won't see the software for a year or more post RTM...

When an Amazon engineer fixes a minor defect, makes something faster or better, makes an API more functional and complete, how do they "ship" that software to me? What is the lag time between the engineer completing the work, and the software reaching its intended customers? A good friend of mine investigated a performance problem one morning, he saw an obvious defect and fixed it. His code was trivial, it was tested during the day, and rolled out that evening. By the next morning millions of users had benefited from his work."

In other words, speed of execution makes a huge difference in making a difference, and as Rich Skrenta so perceptively said, Google IS creating itself as a massive OS.

And now they've got the guy to do it.

Search Engine Blog talks to Topix.net founder Rich Skrenta. Rich emphasizes that Topix strives to automate editorial functions in categorizing stories.
Recognizing named entities challenges the machine first to be able to tell whether the story cites the movie star or the ordinary person with that name, and then to understand whether the story is actually about the person or just mentioning him or her in passing (this is a big flaw in Google news alerts.)
Rich also talks about dmoz, the open directory, and says that "while directories were very interesting in the mid '90's, keyword search has eclipsed them as the main ways consumers find information on the Internet."
And my favorite quote from Rich: "Search is a first step to full utilization of a world-sized corpus of encyclopedic information, combined with the full value that community participation in the content & commerce process can provide."

A good read.



Rich Skrenta reports that AOL Local will be use Topix.net headlines on their new local search service.
Susan sez: IMHO, Topix is a small company that is doing both the technology and the business right. Rock on, guys!

Hop Studios ( Travis Smith & Susannah Gardner) have redesigned 5 local LA-area newspaper web sites owned by Tribune via LATimes:

The designs remind me of Topix.net, in a way, and have a nice organizational clarity--very blog-like and able to include more interactive features, I hope.
Travis says:
"The front page of one paper is only 19K -- 50K if you include all the graphics and style sheets."

Nice.

From rojo's Kevin Burton:

Hoping to attract more online readers, The New York Times is paying to have its headlines featured in sections of Topix.net, an Internet startup that compiles news snippets from hundreds of Web sites.

The partnership, expected to be announced Thursday, represents a coup for Palo Alto-based Topix, which hopes to persuade other newspapers to buy featured positions it other sections of its Web site. Topix, founded in 2002, offers 150,000 different categories, divided by geography and a wide range of categories, including news, sports, entertainment, health and science.

Talk about deep verticals! It's interesting that the Times is moving beyond syndication deals with the big guys (AOL, etc.) to the long tail, which is what Topix.net represents.



Gary Stein's talked to Rich Skrenta at Topix and reports on the "extra" Google Ad Sense information Topix is able to load into the JavaScript ad word tags, giving much more detailed individual user targeting to ad serving (like the site knows he's interested in publishing!)

John Battelle reports on the new Google Ad Sense program and describes it as a move to an API and a platform/infrastructure--comparable to what's happened with eBay and Amazon's platform efforts spurring new businesses, etc.--The main story's here, but once again Battelle describes it on the most cogent manner.

Update: Silicon Valley Watcher reports the new Google Adwords: Improved Adwords Conversion Tracking will " track conversions not just from Adwords, but also Overture, emails, banner ads, and all other sorts of online advertising campaigns. This allows the merchant to compare the campaigns against each other. "

Wow!

Skrenta:" Topix.net has added news channels to track any stories for 2,500 privately-held startups, scanned from the 10,000 sources we're crawling. The tracking channel was designed in association with Bob Karr's LinkSV.com, which maintains the database of private company profiles which we're using for the automated news scan. There is also a related channel which tracks press releases from any of the same 2,500 startups. "
topix.net/startups
topix.net/startups/pr
topix.net/vc

And it's free.

Forbes story on how RSS syndication will disrupt existing news businesses. Quote: "By Internet standards RSS is ancient, invented circa 1997, but it is just now catching on, in part because of the millions of blogs constantly generating new content and in part because of new RSS search services like Feedster.com that sort through the missives like an e-mail reader.
(snip)
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RSS-based searchers Technorati, Topix, Feedster and DayPop look for instantly updated material, thus providing a different slice of the Web than Google does, one based on freshness rather than relevancy. Down the road, online advertising might mutate into something wrapped around RSS streams-if fewer people surf news sites or use traditional search services. Feedster has already started incorporating sponsored links with its RSS headlines."

Topix: World domination, deal 2

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Topix.net announced a new deal with Citysearch--they will provide local news stories and Citysearch will give them ad revenue (basically). This is the second major deal announced since the one with Ask Jeeves in September.
ClickZ quotes Taek Kwon, Citysearch EVP of product and technology: "In tandem with extending the reach of our network of local advertisers through Topix.net's localized news pages, we see this as a great milestone in championing local content on the Internet."
It's great to see Topix cutting more deals, but this agreement underscores what's wrong with the online newspaper business--as in why didn't one of the newspaper companies cut this deal first?

Sometimes I feel online news is like an old dog--you kick it, but it doesn't move. Other times, I feel like people are trying really hard to move the online news business along--they're just not always hitting the best targets.

Rich Skrenta of Topix.net discusses both the percentage of readers using RSS clients and the popularity of specific clients.
Some data from Rich on clicks per story for users of specific clients:
Newsgator, 29%
Feedster, 24%
MyYahoo, 20%
Intravnews., 4%
Netnewswire. 4%
Pluck, 3%
Sharpreader, 3%
Feedreader, 2%
Feeddemon, 2%
Firefox, 2%$

Bloglines, Rojo and Amphetadesk--three I use regularly--are all MIA from this list--as is Technorati, whi, Rich says, doesn't seem to be crawling Topix feeds. (why the H not?)

Copy this: BBC Newstracker

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Finally! BBC News has begin to integrate news and blog feeds along side published stories. Drawing on feed from Moreover,the staff's created a box to run with specific articles labeled From other news sites.

Robert Andrews has a nice writeup of the new product, called Newstracker, and Heibo Hebig takes note as well.
The BBC's model of complementing their product and user experience by linking out is a model that everyone in the online information business should look at closely.
The BBC implementation shows one aspect of the power of syndication/RSS/XML and suggests ways that content can be repackaged dynamically with timeliness, influence, and relevance as factors.
American publishers: How about some news entities be as brave as CNET and the BBC and open up your news experience using the new search & directory tools? Why not try giving the engaged audience what they want and adding some (additional) value to your online products?
This is what intelligent users want--and if you don't provide it, they will spend less time on your site so they can get it elsewhere.
Anyone who wants to talk about this, contact me. I'm obsessed.

Topix.net does portal deal with Ask.com

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In a sign that the next generation of search and directory is rapidly growing up comes the news that Topix.net is announcing a portal deal with Ask Jeeves tomorrow am. Ask Jeeves will integrate Topix.net search results and incorporate their search algorithms, providing the site with a richer data set of local news.

New and noteworthy

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--Topix.net is building out their categories and content bundles--check out their Gadgets feed, and the new education hierarchy(this is great!). The home page has some tweaks, too.
-- Firefox is out and getting tons of downloads. I haven't spent enough time with it, but my Mozilla bud, Rafael Ebron, is proud. Live bookmarks sound very useful.
--The Newspaper Association of America has released the findings from a study called Targeting Teen Consumers. Intended for newspaper executives, it has good data for all of us interested in this audience.

Coastsider is a new(ish) local site for Montara, Half Moon Bay and other coastal towns south of San Francisco. Mediasavvy's Barry Parr runs the site.

Vin Crosbie's done an analysis of Google news sources for a project, and generously shares the results on his blog. Vin says "Although Google spiders more than 4,500 news sources, only about dozen account for the vast majority of stories on Google News. And two of those dozen predominant sources are owned and operated by the U.S. and Chinese governments." He then runs the stats showing the breakdowns.
The comments on this post add to the discussion, with one poster writing "Google has a hierarchy of stories from a certain number of media outlets. That's the way most news services work. I think if you drilled down, you'd be surprised at how much content is actually repetition of the same AP stories anyway." and another saying 'What's interesting to me is that Google News manages not to be completely dominated by the power law, since half of the sources aren't in the top 20. "
As Vin would undoubtedly agree, it is hard to read this post and not think about Topix.net, which prides itself on indexing a wide variety of sources.

Topix.net just posted a new release of their site that features a new "algorithmic story editing technology", new semantic category filters, a redesigned and expanded home page, and RSS feeds of search results pages.
I asked their CEO, Rich Skrenta(another former Netscape/AOLer) to explain a bit more about this new editing technology. He wrote me:
"We're using the category information on stories to drive the frontpage selection. Overall, the function is to look for the "biggest"stories (per NewsRank) for the day, and show them. But we are up/down biasing certain semantic categories. Health +10%, Business -10%,celebs +10%, sex but only if it's G-rated, lurid/crime/disaster is a bonus, sports is sent off to the Sports section of our site,unless it's a really big sports story, or about the Olympics....that sort of thing. There actually are a lot of rules in the mix,and we're still tuning it. But my personal experience is that we've been able to make the mix much more _interesting_ in the process."
Skrenta also writes on his blog: "We want to de-homogenize the news selection; instead of averaging down, we want Topix.net to find and bring back the most interesting, compelling (and sometimes the oddest) stories from the deep corners of the web. Stories that won't show up on other sites."
This is really great, but I'd also like the team to bring in an interface designer to help in the next rev. While the easy-to-read presentation of the headlines and individual stories looks great, the new design crams every more info onto every page, resulting in a degree of clutter that's paralyzing (does anyone really want a front page, for example, with more than 100 story lnks on it--plus navigation, text ads, banners ads, footers and so on?
Skrenta and co. would do well to explore how a multiple page format, perhaps with pop-up windows or DHTML or java-scripted collapsible views, could make such an onslaught on information more manageable.
Also, the level of freshness and relevancy in such a broad range of topics varies widely, depending on the flood of articles available--a Sunday night look at the page for Britney Spears had very few fresh stories; the page for South Orange, NJ was thin and pushing a July 26th story to the top made it look out of date (it wasn't), while the Mary-Kate Olsen and San Jose, CA pages were full of new info.
(One of the nicest features of the new design is the new nav bar on the right, which offers pop-up links to previous queries/pages within the main sections--this elegant, efficient method keeps confusion down and drives more clicks.)
Having said that, the new release is basically great--and makes me a continuing fan of Topix.
Eager to see what they do next.

Focus on: AOL

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Where is AOL Today?
Those dark days seem hard to get over for AOL- -news yesterday that the parent company is auditing AOL Europe suggests that the SEC probe--which became public about two years ago--is still dragging on. This means that Time Warner's hopes of spinning off AOL ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
On another note, TW vice chairman Don Logan, told analysts that AOL.com is going to be built out--much like Netscape was supposed to be back in 2001--as an a la carte destination for web surfers. This strategy, long a favorite of AOL Programming EVP Jim Bankoff (disclosure: I worked for him) runs parallel--and is presumably complementary--to AOL Broadband's focus on developing premium entertainment services--reportedly the core vision for AOL Broadband EVP and GM (and former BMG powerhouse) Kevin Conroy.
Finally press reports that AOL's dial-up subs continue to tank, even as the online advertising business rebounds. For the first time in three years, AOL's ad sales have increased, rising 23% per cent, with a 2% revenue growth, for a total $2.2B number.
Staffers continually say things are getting better, and "we're turning the big ship around." Given the dark days of 2002 and 03, that's gotta be true. Furthermore, as a one-stop shop AOL is without peer, and it's virus-checking qualities have kept me on its email system long beyond when it otherwise made sense.
On the other hand. AOL will need to continue to leverage its huge size and still-impressive audience reach to avoid falling into the big tail/little brain universe known as too-little, too late. 

What should they do? 
IMHO, to avoid being fodder  for the (next) corporate write-down, the company needs to continue to streamline the service, bring some fresh viewpoints into the news partnership (hey,   CNN is teaming with Technorati--why didn't AOL News try something different this year?), and continue to simplify and streamline their offerings--finding the good stuff that isn't promotion of the day is STILL a major challenge.

If I ran the circus I'd: 
-- Keep improving news: Use Technorati Feedster and PubSub like tools to add a Vox Populi element to the news coverage and the member comments;
--Team up with Topix.net to offer micro-local news and blog content for AOL.com, the My services, and the Digital Cities brands
--Create a strategy to integrate ecommerce referral for major AOL partner brands into the blogging, home page, photo album and community tools--and tie to it to the  member incentives and loyalty programs
--Develop a blogging/social media strategy tied to the wonderful broadband entertainment/sports coverage--and the community tools/member base.
--See how all these programs could be repurposed on the web to make AOL.com a destination competitive with Yahoo, MSN, MSNBC.com, Google/ Blogger/ Gmail, and so on.

 
(Disclosure: Sound impassioned? Worked there for almost 4 years, was a biz partner for 8, and admire the great number of really smart , nice people working their tails off there now despite the (sometimes)horrendous corporate culture.)

We're just a week away from the DNC, and nothing in the online news space looks very fresh or very different--yet. Six months ago, I wrote two articles for the Digital Edge of the Newspaper Association of America about the 2004 elections and online news sites.  One piece focused on the ad side, the other on the edit. In both, site managers and editors discussed what the kind of coverage they hoped to offer for the 2004 race.
None of it seems to have happened. 

With the idea it is time to get with the program, here are some things I'd like to see news organizations do:

 -- The New York Times or the Washington Post and Technorati or Feedster=Vox Populi
Why don't we see a major media outlet that will file lots of stories during the election find a way to work with Technorati or Feedster so they can have almost real-time links reflecting people?s comments on--and links to--the stories--right on their web site?
 
Advance Publications or Tribune and Topix.net=Local depth

Why doesn't a large regional newspaper player, like Advance or Trib, team up with Topix to provide a more complete index of local news stories related to election topics? This would be a great way to complement their coverage--if they could stand linking out to other entities, of course.  
 
MTV and Orkut and Live Journal=Community
Why doesn't Rock the Vote tape into the social network space and affiliate with a large, viral network and a youth-oriented blogging service to add more resonance, depth, and community to their program?  

 
Fox News or CNN with Blogger and Picasa or Typepad=Citizen Journalism

Why doesn't one of the larger networks and their local affiliates work with a large blogging service and their photo/mobblogging capabilities to create local citizen/journal reporters who can moblog local campaign and election events and do man on the street interviews?  
 
ALL news entities with
Internet Archive and Creative Commons licensing
Why not create an open source media archive for the 2004 election? What if all the major news players decided to cooperate with the Internet Archive and build a multimedia archive for the 2004 election season?  And grant a Creative Commons license for use of the materials?
 
Yahoo or MSN or AOL plus Bloglines or Rojo = Election newsreader

Why doesn't a news-focused portal site team up with one of the new web-based newsreader services to offer a customized and branded newsreader customized with political feeds--a My Yahoo or MSN or My AOL for the elections?    
 
Update: This post has sparked much discussion and links --thank you, everyone! For a look at the discussion, check out Technorati or Feedster. 
  

 

What do you get when you cross the Open Directory taxonomy and data with a Topix.net-style presentation of results data (as opposed to just links?)
It's ZURL, Topix's newest product, and a damn interesting one at that.
ZURL--billed the last URL you'll ever need (very cute)is a "revised" presentation of Open Directory data,arranged--like Topix--in a news-style format(see Drink.. Wine..for an example)
The directory is a little bare at launch, but there are lots of pages in News-- Journalism, blogs, 2004 Presidential Election, and the potentially fascinating Obits, for starters. Also check out the local city pages, like Palo Alto. (If it wasn't clear before that one of Topix's business goals must surely be to partner with local newspapers, this implementation of Zurl makes it clear.)
Also check out People--Zurls builds pages for dozens of celebs, from Laurence Oliver to Basement Jaxx

(Via Skrenta)

Side note: It's especially heartening to see Skrenta & co. apply their smarts to keeping the Open Directory relevant. Acquired by Netscape, the Open Directory was the foundation for most search taxonomies,but never supported by the corporate parent(AOL) in any significant way. This implementation of its data moves it toward new relevance.

Google files: $2.7 Billion

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To think they started only 4 years ago--and now the company's filing a $2.7B IPO. Money's got a story, as does everyone else in the blogosphere.

Psst, Feedster's got the Google IPO watch. And Google news has stories as well., as does Topix.

Earlier today, a publisher was showing me the web site stats and describing how traffic has soared. "Do you know where they are coming from?" I asked.
His expression became more sober. "Well, that's one of the problems" he replied. "We have lots of information, but we don't know that."
IWe agreed would be useful to know how many people were coming in as a result of a news search to read a specific story, how many came via a headline on the home page or other key entry point, such as sports main, and then where they went--did they read one story and leave, or were they recirculated? And if yes, to where?
The conversation went on in much more depth and got into questions of branding, focus, and strategy (with revenue as the backdrop for everything of course). We parted, agreeding to talk further.
I was reminded of the relevance of these questions to many newspaper sites when I read a post on the online news list from the Albuquerque Journal's Donn Friedman's on how readers enter his site: 28% from a search; 16% from a Google search and a reply from journalism prof Eric Meyer saying that newspaper sites are commoditizing search and "trivializing" their content.
I think I'd put it another way--in a world where sophisticated search tools make it easy to pull up your content, how do online news sites prepare for readers who may bec oming in as the result of a specific link in an aggregated list? T
his kind of user case makes a news story much closer to a blog post than to a traditional article, in that it is discovered as part of a linking strategy evoked as the result of a query (I am thinking of topix and Google News here). So how best to acquire these users, or at least, recirculate them into the parts of the site?

As we all know, Google is collecting a lot of data. And it's more and more personalized. Esther Dyson does a good job articulating further ways in which Google's big, targeted data sets can create new markets (and by the way, it is great to see her posting more!)
Esther writes: "While right now Google is collecting information through AdWords for targeting, there's no reason it couldn't start using advertiser-entered data for display as well, as it already does with data feeds in Froogle. Some companies may start sending these new kinds of feeds expressly, while others might fill out a slightly more complex , domain-specific form when they advertise. Then hotels could start to compete on the basis of their swimming pool hours."

As Esther points out, Google is building the ability to offer more precisely targeted results, both as responses to queries, and as ads. When you think about Google refining this capability and then syndicating it to partners, wow.....that's another way to be the OS, as Skrenta says, for sure. Of course, Yahoo wants to have the same capabilities (don't we all?)

Skrenta groks Google's master plan. From a guy who helped create The Open Directory, this rings true.

Missed a good post by T Jacobi--picked up by deejecooley's BloggerJack Reporter on new and upcoming blog aggregrators, filters, and search engines, along the lines of topix, kinja, and the just redesigned and revamped Technorati. Jacobi wonders if AI tools will help filter all the news into a manageable order.
It does seem like we are on the verge of seeing some new product launches and some 2.0 releases of recent projects.
I'm predicting the entropy of building out users for these new tools follows two models:
1) integration as aplets into existing audience bases (large news sites, ecommerce sites, entertainment sites, for example)--making the user experience better and more relevant;
2) New services and destinations--products that offer capabilities that are unique and useful enough you want to sign up right then and keep coming back.

Google's success--among others--was to simultaneously follow both these models--to make distribution deals with AOL and Yahoo for example, and also keep building and improving Google.com as a destination. In our supersized corporate world, small players often fear being derailed if they partner with (and service) the big guys, but the path to building a core audience base of 1 MM or more on your own can take more than a year, even for the best new product/service.
For that reason, I applaud companies that are able to focus themselves to play the game both ways--to build independent, stand-alone products and services, and also find ways to partner that educate consumers, expose their product, and start grow the business (aka some $$). And I am looking forward eagerly to some of the next generation products about to hit the market.

Vin Crosbie likes Topix

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Vin sez: "... Topix probably produces a better news Web site for many localities than those localities own newspapers do.
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"One of the advantages Topix has is it gathers content from multiple media companies. For example, a newspaper's Web site has content primarily from its print edition, while Topix has content from that newspaper, other newspapers that might cover the same town, and all the TV and radio stations and business journals covering that town. It could be a formidable competitor.

The major disadvantage Topix faces is in marketing. It's easy for a daily newspaper to market itself in its own community, but not so easy for Topix to do so."

Congrats to the Topix.net team for their official launch. If you haven't checked this service out, you should--it presents search results on news sources in an easy to read newspaper format.

Search :Ethics of scraping metadata

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Adrian Holovaty's s got a post about Topix, a news aggregator that presents search results in a newspaper-like format. He's incensed at their user policy, which restricts usage of the service to individual----at the same time that they are making their money packaging links and placing search results ads on those pages. He says "I admire the Topix.net proprietors for their gall. But their hypocrisy is undeniably crass."
A commentator asks: "Is this any different than Google?"

Rich Skrenta says that Topix has added RSS feeds to all their structured data searches. He writes "We have a feed for every ZIP code in the US, a feed for every public company, a feed for every sports team, a feed for every movie star, band and musician...and more."
He also says, "I told Dave Winer about it ... but he flamed me. He said I had used the wrong version of RSS, and would never henceforth utter the name 'Topix'. Sigh. (so much for perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::RSS')"

My net access was unbelievably slow last night, so I never got to use my newsreader, but I do plan to add some of Topix's feeds later today and check'em out.

Topix.net: Where Local News Rules

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Topix, a new web-based news service, launched this week and was promptly TechDirted and Metafiltered. Created by a cadre of ex-AOL Shopping/Netscape Search engineers, who also--not incidentally--were core members of the team launched the Open Directory Project back in 1998, Topix automatically generates over 150,000 keyword based news pages, each loading automatically with chronologically ordered news sources.

Similar to Google News in many respects, Topix is built on a detailed, custom taxonomy that classifies every story according to content type and geographic location. Focusing on 4,000 news sources (including a few blogs).Topix offers users the ability to track updated news on very specific terms;the more localized, the better.

One way to take a look at what Topix offers compared to Google News is to run two different queries and check results.

First, Britney Spears, one of the top ten search terms of 2003. The top story this morning on Topix.net's Britney Spears page is from the Detroit Free Press and is entitled Stop Britney Before She Goes Too Far ; the next story is from KSAN, a local news station, and is about Britney's new video.

Google New's Britney page , in contrast, leads with Canadian site Chart Attack's story Britney Spears Brings Her Darkest Secrets to Canada , one of many about an upcoming concert tour. The top story doesn't even show up on Google New's results list for Britney news.

Next, let's run a search for a particular place--South Orange, New Jersey, where I lived on the East Coast. The Topix.net page has eight stories drawn from local news sources and run in the past 20 hours. While none of them are specifically about South Orange, they are about events happening within a 5-mile radius, and therefore, of interest.

The Google News page has 15 stories, none of which are from today, and several of which focus on Seton Hall's college sports competitions. Only one story, running in the New York Times on Dec. 25th, is specifically focused on a South Orange topic.

There's no question that while the Britney query results on Google have more sizzle, the local town search on Topix has far more relevance than the Google page. One of the key differences is that Google New's search algorithms are keyword driven, offering up the most relevant instances including a specific term. Topix.net'ss keywords, on the other hand, are mapped to both content type and geolocation, allowing the service to weight results in a different way.

When Google launched back in the day, users had to learn the different between a relevance-driven search algorithm and an edited directory, it will be interesting to see how users distinguish between Google News and Topix-generated news pages.

Summary: One of the best and most interesting launched I've seen in a while, but they need to put the pedal to the metal in terms of improved user features, navigation, alerts, and RSS/newsreader feeds to fulfill their potential and gain a substantial user base.

Also, early indications are that--like about.com--Google results will be an important entry point for them for topic-driven search queries. See Social Software News and Drink Wine for examples of the kinds of pages Google is likely to discover.

Note: I did an interview with CEO Rich Skrenta yesterday, which I will blog later today--more details on the search algorithm and the business plan to come in that piece.

Results matching “Topix” from goofin

Noted: What Tolles said to Google

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"Total local stories per day 22,293 Number of populated US ZIP codes 32,500

We started by trying to add more sources. We added government, weather and industry sources, and then we added 25,000 blogs to the mix to see what we'd get. And, pretty much, they still didn't provide the breadth of coverage around local news, especially around small towns.

Don't like the news? Make some of your own!"

-- Topix.net CEO Chris Tolles, commenting on Google's rollout of GLocal, a similar set of l ocal news services--cept the G's are limited to aggregated feeds, and Topix has UGV forums.

Quote of the Day

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"It's going to take more than one company to rebuild the local newspaper from the ground up." --VC Fred Wilson, writing about Adrian Holovaty's just launched hyperlocal aggregator and service, EveryBlock, and about his investment in Outside.In. (Susan sez: This is a Knight News Challenge grant project and it's exciting to see how it's refining ideas from Craigslist, Topix and others.)

Quote (s) of the Day

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"Even though we were seeing eye-to-eye on what needed to be done, after the press tour and some initial conversation about where we needed to go, Rich told me that he wasn't having as much fun right now, and looking at what we needed to do, didn't see much opportunity for what he really loves to do -- architect from the metal on up and put out the 1.0 that is so far ahead of everything else - the first computer virus, one of the first MUD's, NewHoo/dmoz, Topix - that even his no good co-founders couldn't screw things up." And "Strap in, it's going to be fun." --New topix CEO Chris Tolles, explaining co-founder and now ex-CEO Rich Skrenta's decision to move up to the board and put Chris in charge. (Susan sez: Full disclosure is I am friends with these guys from waay back, so this is a totally biased post.)
My friend Rich Skrenta has a typically cogent post up, only this time it's not about the Google OS, it's about the me-too and I don't wanna be left out network effects of digerati flocking to Facebook. In particular, Rich notes how the switching cost is pretty low for most SN services. Some quotes: "In an environment where travel is free and instantaneous, you get flash mobs. If a place is cool, or new, or interesting, you go there to check it out. A place might be interesting simply because there are a lot of other people there at the moment. " and "It's easier than ever to move from one service to another. Blog reader? No problem. Photo site? I have accounts on all of them anyway. Social networks? Yeah I'm signed up on all of them. I use the ones everyone else is using, at the moment. Just like we all do. The rest have a stub profile for me, but don't see much activity." Susan sez: The portal play was to embed all your apps and tools in one place as a way to hold you there(think AOL on the web). The social network play was to have you collect all your connections to hold you there (think LinkedIn.) The widgety-goodness way (I just can't write Web 2.0 one more time!) is to try to get the users to aggregate their tools, services, and connections in one place (think Facebook today). That's all cool but the other thing web businesses need to think about, besides widgets, is the identity issue--the services that can figure out aggregating tools and services --like Facebook is--will grow, but the ones that can also figure out identity management--as in multiple identities and layers of privacy--can leap ahead.
Just came from the Rich Skrenta/ Gabe Rivera/Ted Shelton/Oliver Muoto panel, moderated by Charlene Li at the web 2.0 expo on the topic of Media 2.0 and emerging technologies, revenue models and audiences. Notes and comments from that session follow: The alt title of this panel might be geeks who love media and the question of the day is “where is next generation aggregation and media going?” Rich’s spiel is that folks don’t appreciate the newspapers subsidize the 4th estate more efficiently than blogging, even as the Net siphons business and readers from print. Ted Shelton (Personal Bee/Technorati) says that is view of media 2.0 is that whole new range of people are going to star thinking of themselves as publishers a and as content aggregators and or curators—the best things for the right audience at the right monument. (Susan sez: This is personalization isn’t it?)
  • Everyone agrees that one big shiny brass ring is to do the best job of filtering UGC and pro content and giving people what they want in a smart roll up.
  • In other words, delivering that content to people within roll ups and aggregators
  • And personalizing or delivering the right content to the right people
  • And working out the revenue model and the costs.

Some discussion: Muoto Google is considered the 800 lb gorilla, but small businesses have a lot of problems with ad words and ad sense—they are too complicated to use and keywords can be too expensive. There is room for improvement—not everyone is online buying advertising. Shelton: How do we help brand advertisers take advantage of the Internet? Google does not (yet), addressed this. Charlene asks Gabe and Rich: How did you build your audience? Rich highlights how advertisers want small zip code segments and how that problem isn’t solved—yet.

Gabe says that TechMeme is about the links—the relationships—and growth has been driven by experiencing useful links as part of a larger web.

Ted Shelton (relentlessly plugging Technorati (already!) points out Technocrat’s virtuous circle of tools and content roll ups—but also adds that his new employer got into this early and it is HARD to get traction in the audience—or to get customers.

Muoto says the novelty effect is great, but too limited. “It is easier for people who are stars to rise to the top and get recognition.” (Susan sez: What does that mean?) Charlene: Innovation comes from unique perspectives, early in the space. The big players may not have the speed or even the capability. What do bigcos need to do differently? Skrenta: For big cos to be nimble it’s much more difficult to get things done. Having said that, Yahoo, in particular, has some very interesting businesses inside of it like Yahoo! Local and Yahoo! Groups—this is old stuff but it’s a compelling opportunity for local community—but if you can't unify groups and message boards into the local services how can you move quickly enough to win? Shelton says innovation is about big cos doing innovation but big companies can stifle smaller ones (he cites Caterina Fake’s example of her niece squeezing her pet hamster to death from an excess of love). There's more discussion about reaching audiences—Rich affirms that Google search is everyone’s start page; Gabe reminds us that many of the tech driven Media 2.0 start ups don’t have a persistent, lasting value—the founders were “too in love with the technology.” Muoto says audience development is the most important problem facing small web businesses.” Shelton: The mobile internet is going to put the final nail in the coffin of media. Ubiquitous mobile devices will finish off newspapers. The talk continues for the alotted hour, but the (large and diverse) audience seems sluggish; interested in business models and specific tips more that high level issues, I suspect.

Topix founder and leader Rich Skrenta, is explaining Topix's shift in product direction and presentation unveiled today at topix.com in a terrific blog post that's all about listening to users and reinventing a product--but not changing the technology under the hood. Basically, the site has re-launched with an emphasis on hyper-local citizen journalism, forums and blogs--all the gnarly community bits newspaper find it so hard to do.
The local content bits are wrapped in services--like classifieds, and aggregated feeds, and those goshdarn Google ads are ever present. Editing and hiearchy are organized like the Open Directory, which Rich helped start, and there is no home page--you roll your own with your handy-dandy zip code of choice.
Susan sez: I love Topix, always have, and think this new play is so disruptive to other emerging efforts out there-- NowPublic and Placeblogger come to mind, along with every portal and newspaper vision of how to drill down on local and get the secret sauce (yes, I mean this could be a super platform, kids). Those automated feeds and results ain't going away, they're just being wrapped in a more expensive to commoditize wrapper. Rich has a neat lift of comments on the relaunch, re-posted here for your convenience:
Alex Iskold has a piece at Read/Write Web that explores Technorati as a tool for measuring popularity in the blogosphere and then describes what's popular right now by analyzing the top 50 blogs listed by Technorati. Reading Alex's piece, which Richard edited, so many off the mark assumptions leapt out at me, I needed to write this post. According to Alex, "Tech is the number one focus of popular blogs. Politics is second and pop culture third, which clearly gets a lot of attention both off line and online." That's all fine, but I'd suggest that this is only the case because we're not in the middle of an election race--and that the minute the Presidential elections--or any other hotly contested political battle-kick in, these stats will flip, big time. Furthermore, looking at the top blogs misses the singular impact of the long tail and the aggregate value of networks. While it's true that that highest common dominator as described by Technorati stats is political, tech/consumer tech and pop culture blogs, I'd argue there's a significant readship and interest in parenting blogs(mommy blogs in particular), gossip blogs (does pop culture cover that?), erotica and sex blogs, and DIY, crafting and design blogs that Technorati stats--somehow so persistently squewed toward what geeks read--consistently fail to account for. I bet that if you could compare Technorati stats with Topix and Feedburner stats, for example, you'd get a very different picture of the sum total of what was popular in the blogosphere--and it would be a more accurate view. (Susan sez: I understand Technorati is measuring links to blogs to derive the top 100, my point is that there are other, more accurate measures writers like Alex should take into consideration--or, put another way, generalizations can be inaccurate. Interestingly, when I run a search for Mommy blogs on Technorati, I get 388 results back as blog posts, but when I run the same search on Google BlogSearch I get 271,743 results for mommy blogs--Now, I realize that neither one of these is counting very accurately, but it's a heads up. And when I typed in politics blogs on Google BlogSearch, there were 221,295 results (for posts) compared to Technorati's total of 24,582--the point being, even as I acknowledge the different ways that Technorati and Google Blogsearch compute and present their totals, that Technorati is no longer be presenting the most complete and accurate picture of behavior in the blogosphere--and hasn't been for a while.) So Alex's piece is an interesting exercise in deconstructing Technorati stats--but not the bellweather for blogosphere topics, readers, or even what's truly popular beyond the eternal top ten --or in this case top 50--list. I'd value seeing Richard follow up with another analysis of what people are actually reading and writing in the blogosphere across a broader range of categories and then work backwards to tell us what analytical tools are most clearly measuring that behavior--how about it--a true look at where readers--and writers--are putting effort beyond the greatest common denominators.

(Provocative) Quote of the Day

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"...the hopes that Dan Gillmor raised for the media industry in his book -- which kicked off this whole business -- have largely failed." --Rich Skrenta, Topix CEO, writing in his blog about what he describes as the * failure* of the We Media conference in Miami this past week on the basis that the *new* online news paradigms have not succeeded in the business world--and that, in fact, participatory media is, by very definition, uncommercial. Rich also says (in that admirably blunt, Skrenta way): "The dog's breakfast of new media startups includes Gather, Backfence, Newstrust, Daylife, TailRank, Associated Content, Pegasus News, Tinfinger, Findory, Inform, Newsvine, Memeorandum, NowPublic. ....And yes, I would include Topix here as well. ....But, we can face it, even we haven't yet burned down the world, or upended the news industry." Susan says: I don't personally believe that participatory journalism is, by definition, non-commercial--I just think the business rules will continue to shift, in ways we can't yet see (where are those great micropayments systems everyone wanted for bloggers a few years ago--are publishing networks the 2007 equivalent?) But Rich's comments always capture my attention--as does this bonus quote from Mark Glaser: "Thanks to the audience taking control of their media experience and creating their own media in blogs, podcasts, video and social networks, the people who are losing control have decided to meet — and meet, and meet again — until they figure out how they can take back some control of this uncontrollable situation. " If I could have taken the time off from work, I would have gone to this conference--and formed my own opinion--but meanwhile, am still digesting what looks like a lot of blogosphere negative comments--and wondering how many layers and levels of Old Guard/New Guard came into play at this event. Polite disclosure: I was a fellow of an earlier version of ifocus, and know lots of the people in this discussion...and am fascinated both by the criticisms of the conference and Rich's higher-order observations (and wondering how they fit together.)
It was great to see all the links and write-ups that Lisa William's Placeblogger received; there was one aspect of the service that I'm very interested in that I didn't have a chance to get into in my earlier post, that I want to talk about now, and that is the open source, structured directory aspect of the service. In an interview with ClickZ for a story about the service, I said: "I would like to see Placeblogger become the geographical equivalent of something that was powerful early on; the open directory, the first peer-edited, user generated directory for search. DMOZ became the semantic structure for all the search structures that Yahoo and Google used, and it was open source. Placeblogger has an opportunity to become an open source user generated directory of local sites and services." To expand on that idea, IMHO Placeblogger could evolve into a meta-directory of local sites with a series of regional advisors who funnel sites into the (highly structured) database, a dedicated core of Placebloggers who supply feeds and new links, an API that allows redistribution, mash-ups and new product development, a Creative Commons license that supports third-party--and commercial development--and the means to be one of the platform tools fuleing a new wave of local--and potentially self-service advertising platforms, targeted right down to the zip code. It's no accident that Topix.net, one of my very favorite locally-focused search/display products, was co-founded by folks who were part of the Open Directory team, but now, as a privately owned service, Topix has their own plans for world domination--or at least, product excellence, that do not (to my kmowledge) focus on platforms and open source. My hope is that Placeblogger, in its own (admittedly) smaller and more hand-crafted way, can take some lessons from the Open Directory and become the core resource for blogs and other data sources with very specific local identities, affinites, and services. (And just think of how such a service can fit with yellow pages and other enhanced directories, especially when you factor in the community services....)
My friend Lisa Williams is about to launch Placeblogger, an OPML-based aggregator that will be a directory of local blogs--blogs focused on a place, not neccessarily news blogs--around the country. Now Steve Berlin Johnson, one of the more reflective writers I read, announces that's he's got a stealth local start-up called outside.in--a service that aggregates local news, blogs and other feeds into one handy-dandy destination page (a fulsome example is at 11217--Park Slope, Brooklyn, where Johnson lives)--Palo Alto seems a little, uh bare right now). Like Backfence, the too-early Bayosphere, and dozens of local news-focused sites like BaristaNet (Montclair, NJ), outside.in will try to generate value for a local community and serve as the starting point and destination. The difference between outside.in and some of these earlier sites, however, is that rather than serve as a place to create and post content (think stable of writers model) these new sites use feeds, tagging and GEO-URL to create a service that can aggregate and therefore serve as the epicenter of local user generated content--in other words, something more similar to what Topix has been tryng to do with its local local content (see Palo Alto in their planet here and Park Slope here). Susan sez: It energizes me to see efforts to get local *right* come round and round again as the tools and users evolve. Back in the early mid to late 90s, we did New Jersey Online, a local site with news, forums, and personality, then truly local sites like BaristaNet popped up in the 00s and newspapers improved their skin in the game, and then we got into the citizen journalism thing big time and lots of efforts faltered a bit as others worked--and now here's the latest placeblogging incarnation starting to develop and it is going to be very interesting. Susan sez 2: The ever-more techy site of me has to point out the intense value of companies like Yahoo supporting their efforts through a rich series of APIs. One obvious implication of these aggregator sites is that the do ride on tools--and APIs- developed by others, so the importance of haing local APIs and making them available to people working at this level is critical. (Imagine if say a big web FooBar business decided to have a rich API and offer it to placebloggers and the placebloggers all created local APIs driving back to that business and just think how much that business might gain in distribution and referral if all these emerging hyperlocal bloggers picked the feed up...and...you get the drill.) And then of course there is the business woman part of me which is constantly interested in how to support local, targeted advertising--the sweet spot of all this growth. So, the ever-shifting continuance of local and the rise of placeblogging are great--and may a thousand flowers--and many more placeblogs--flourish. BONUS: Steve has some points about placeblogs worth repeating: 1. It's all about hyperlocal. 2. A post can be local, even if the blogger isn't (and therefore worth aggregating) 3. Neighborhoods are more important that maps. 4. Geo-tags and location-aware tags are good, but it's also important to have other filters-- date, for example. 5. Local news often has a long-shelf life.
Chris Tolles has a post today about Topix's recently outed free classifieds network,who empowers local users to post for sale items in the Topix network. The adss are free and featured on local news papers (they have 30,000 of those)--and they'remonetized by one of the best usages of Google Ad Words on the planet. Chris says: "The key to making this work, as Jeff Jarvis rather tartly points out, is a lot of local traffic. With over 7M unique visitors, spread out pretty evenly geographically, we are getting great pickup. We're getting great traction on our forums -- 8,000 posts a day, with real diversity (not just the Web 2.0 crowd). The new Topix classified ad system is growing at a similar pace." Susan says: As GoogleBase rolls on, other option become pretty interesting--not as ways to beat newspapers ( Craig did that), but as vast aggregated distributors of structued data AND tagged content. Put Technorati, edgeio and others into the soup and wonder who the next leader in combining structured data and free text tagging might be--and what kind of classifieds system triumph that could lead to.
The AP reports that The McClatchy Co. has reached a deal to buy Knight Ridder Inc for about $4.5 billion in cash and stock, the companies announced Monday. McClatchy will also assume about $2 billion in Knight Ridder's debt and plans to sell 12 of Knight Ridder's 32 newspapers, including The Philadelphia Inquirer, The Philadelphia Daily News and the San Jose Mercury News. I'm wondering what will happen to the digital assets-- ShopLocal, Topix and KRD corporate development--will they remain intact, be moved to Sacramento, or be broken apart?
So how does Rich assess CL vs paid dating listings, a la Y ! Personals and Match.com? Some snippets of his POV here: "The personals column competes with Match.com, eHarmony, and other dating sites. But it's got something they don't. A riveting editorial column written by the users. " And, as Rich points out, Craig has lots more links on his home page to personals categories. (Susan says true, but as users know, the very randomness of CL dating often makes the results (i.e. people you meet) as surprising as the posts.) Rich's final quote: " ...who else attacks so many different businesses on a single hompage? Online dating, events, real estate, apartments, forums, used cars, community, jobs. OMG... Yahoo. " Gotta love that Rich, how true is that? LOL.
The incomparably smart Rich Skrenta deconstructs Craiglist's succeess in a post that's a must-read for anyone interested in classifieds, citizen journalism, the semantic web and viral marketing/local. A snippet: "Craig's lead-into-gold trick is that he gets his posters to accurately classify their spam. Into 160 categories. Holy Toledo Jacob Nielsen. You can't have a pulldown with 160 things in it. Half of your users wouldn't get a pulldown with 3 things in it right. Ah, but it's not a pull-down. Half of the entire homepage is a giant selector devoted to classifying posts. Isnip) Booting up new cities should be very hard, maybe taking years like the main SF site took. But there's another set of seed material to help new Craigslist cities get going. The discussion forums. These are global across all the Craigslist cities. If you go to perth.craigslist.com and click on 'transit', you're going to read about SF Muni. But fortunately many of the categories, like 'kink', travel well. So there is plenty of discussion on a brand new Craigslist city to look at even when nobody from the new town has contributed anything yet. " As usual, Rich is sharp, incisive and original--folks, take note.
Topix's Rich Skrenta's got an outstanding post on citizen journalism, alogrithmic news, and media going on--a must read. Some snippets: "The quality of journalistic output today is, for the most part really really good. In fact it's too good. The product costs a huge amount to bring to market, and what the Internet enables is a an alternative product built for zero, and providing a different value proposition. Citizen journalism is going to be more Citizens and less Journalism. " and "Creating a local news page for every town in the US provided us with a set of local audiences for thousands of towns... towns where people who use AOL and have never heard of Web 2.0 live. These people want to tell their stories too. You don't need to know what a blog is to want to tell your story online, and you don't need a journalist to tell you how either, it turns out. We've been astonished at many of the posts we've had. There is much of the normal chatter you'd find on message board comments (which we think is just great), but there are also many first-person accounts of news events from across the country. More than we expected, frankly. In places like Valley Center, CA, Hickory, NC, Redford, MI, Hillborough, NC, Lake Butler, FL, Hershey, PA, and Livermore, CA. Some of these reports are very raw and heart-wrenching. But we're glad we were able to offer a place for these conversations to occur. " Susan sez: Rich is a ground-breaker, and this is something important to watch.,and participate in.
"Blogs and news are now on equal footing on Topix.net," says Topix CEO Rich Skrenta, who reports that Topix has added 15,000 blogs to its index, and offers an inside look at a question that intrigues the Topix guys: "Are blog posts news?" To figure that out, Rich and co. took a look at the coverage of key categories--news, sports, entertainment, etc.--but mainstream media and blogs, decided blogs added a lot to the mix, and then crawled (he says) about 1 MM blogs to build a list of the 15,000 now incorporated into the Topix index. He's got some interesting charts and some fascinating data, including the fact that 85-90% of the daily posts hitting ping services such as weblogs.com are spam--and now visitors to pages like US News and Wierd News can see the blog posts highlighted alongside the other feeds.

AOL--Top news destination

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Paid Content: "While the unique audience of AOL News is about 29% smaller than Yahoo News, AOL News is more than 2.4 times larger than Google News and almost 6.8 times larger than Topix.net." Story here. Greg Jarboe says this moves AOL news into the top ranks--but AOL News has always been huge--now it's getting bigger.
I know I should be amazingly cool and pretend that it didn't give me a total thrill to meet Google's Krishna Bharat, but that would be a lie. Meeting Krishna and chatting with him will definitely be one of the high points of the trip (another might be sitting cross-legged in the Korean Folk Village eating kim chee and ribs with Rich Skrenta and his wife--nothing like travelling 6,000 miles to dine with your neighbor from California). Anyway, Bharat is smart, refreshingly low-key and very passionate about Google News and the service's committment to provide multiple viewpoints on an event via story clusters. Chatting, Skrenta asked Bharat if they had any plans to index more video. Bharat said no, but pointed out that Google News is indexing some podcasts (?)--or at least the text transcripts that link to podcasts (think NPR). Currently based in Bangalore, Bharat still oversees Google News, but has also been hiring for a small Google engineering office in Bangalore.

Takes on Topix

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Had lunch last week with Topix guys Rich Skrenta and Chris Tolles at their beautiful Palo Alto offices (like, above the trophy shop). The conversation ranged from work focus post-acquisition to the legal issues around packaging up feeds. For those who are interested in learning more about this very nimble company, some info from the talk:
  • Topix.net is an active packager and redistributors of local content and news feeds, as well as a growing force in providing aggregated local news.
  • Topix has 150,000 topically based, micro-news pages and more than 2.8 MM unique users.
  • There are roughly 187,000 My Yahoo subscribers, 190,000 CitySearch subscribers, and 7,000 Bloglines subscribers reading their feeds.
  • More than 10,000 sources are spidered--to acquire and categorize the data, Topix spiders, aka indexes, sites on an indexing list and leaves behind aTopix.net URL in the log files that shows the site was crawled.
  • The robot spider is blockable if source wishes. If access is given, takes headlines and digest.
  • A URL is left behind showing the spider was there. The spider can be blocked with a simple command.
  • Over past 15 month of operations, only 4 sources have opted out.
  • 2,000 content entities have contacted Topix and requested inclusion in the crawl list.
  • Commercial distribution arrangements are in place with AOL, Ask Jeeves and Infospace, bundling headlines and digests of content and supplying them out.
Skrenta says that they want to become THE local home page for news around the US, as well as a major revenue driver for local advertising, but that they are also deeply involved with partner strategies (no surprise given they were just acquired by three newspapers). Susan sez: It's going to be very interesting to see how Topix.net development progresses, given that they are lean team (10 people) with three big parent companies that probably have a well-developed wish list already on the table.

So Topix's Rich Skrenta read my post and came up with some fascinating data of his own re topix and bloglines, including the fact that "Topix.net has 187k subs total on My Yahoo, compared with 7k on Bloglines." Rich also says "Our knitting feed is our 12th most popular feed; quilting is #10." List of all topix feeds is here. Susan says: Larger implications of feed packaging and redistribution continue to be interesting...both from an ad perspective (think of the revenue these feeds could carry and who gets the $$) and from a licensing/permissions perspective...either way, Rich, this is so interesting.
Dave Weinberger says: Confusability is scraping bloglines and noticing how people are categorizing feeds. Among the first 100 most popular folder names on Bloglines are:
  • blogs
  • news
  • tech
  • Technology
  • People
  • Politics
  • friends
  • comics
  • blog misc
Plus--here's a list of the top subscribers to feeds on Bloglines--their subscription names, number of feeds, and number of folders they have. Interestingly, topix is #3--with 3109 feeds in 17 folders, preceeded by Renwar (Chia Renwar?) and Divedi Among the Bloglines feed consumers that I recognized are scobelizer(1085), Phil Wolff (813), George Kelly (764), Enoch Choi(759) and A ndrew Nachison (712). Someone has a list of 3,000+ blogspot feeds.


        

Embargoes: Biro deconstructs

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Q: When is an embargo not an embargo? A: When a major news organization breaks it, cause they can. Tom Biro gets down and dirty into the Topix.net story, the news embargo and the practice of--well--keeping agreed-upon secrets. If embargoes matter to you, this is an interesting write-up. If not--well, go have some coffee.

Topix: $5 mil or $50 mil?

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Jeff Clavier fisks the Topix numbers and comes up with some theories. He writes :"There are enough whispers of the return of a bubble in the RSS/new media world to try and figure out whether this was a $5M or a $50M deal (see, I am not the only one wondering). And then quotes Bambi Francisco saying that Topic was valued between $50 and $100 million. Jeff writes: "So we have confirmation that a large part of the consideration went to the shareholders of the company - allowing them to partially cash out, and a small portion went to the bank as operating cashflow. Great deal (somewhat similar to the MySpace financing where the original owner partially cashed out, and the co got some cash). Back to the original feeling of delight for these guys, etc.

However the valuation seems... rich."

I spoke with someone last night who has another emerging tech company who was thrilled about this deal...it makes his company, like the others on Rafat Ali's best bets for buyouts list, seem all the more valuable.

CEO Skrenta lays the deal out. PR rep Rubel weighs in, along with Malik, Battelle, Hammock, Ali, and Jarvis. Update: Bambi Francisco, Marketwatch: "Topix.net would not disclose the terms of the deal, only to say that the funding was less than $5 million. The capital will be used by the nine-person team, partly to give a salary to the founders, who hadn't paid themselves in three years." Clarification: Valuation for Topix.net is rumored to be way higher than Bloglines. If the $$ rumors are right, the founders should be feeling pretty, pretty good.
Earlier today, Tony Gentile had a rumor that Topix.net was acquired by Knight-Ridder--it's true. Knight Ridder, in partnership with the Tribune Media Company and Gannett, has acquired 75% of Topix.net for an undisclosed amount. I spoke with Rich Skrenta, Topix CEO and founder, and he told me that the deal would allow Topix to remain as an independent entity based in the Valley--and deploy their skills across the KRD-Trib-Gannett platform. The press release states: "Topix.net will use content and funding from Gannett, Knight Ridder and Tribune to expand and refine its NewsRank technology, services and operational infrastructure. ..Collectively, Gannett, Knight Ridder and Tribune operate more than 140 newspaper Web sites with nearly 30 million unique visitors monthly. The companies have partnered together in other joint ventures such as ShopLocal.com and CareerBuilder.com." This is an awesome event for the (self-funded) Topix guys, and an amazingly shrewd move by these newspaper partners--for far less than the NYTimes, they've acquired a resource that will help them launch and create local feeds, monetize text ads far better than Google AdWords can off the shelf, and help make them a leader in the search, local and RSS spaces. The deal also plays well with Knight-Ridder's recent acquisition of 5 local daily newspapers in Silicon Valley, including the Palo Alto Daily News. If Topix.net's talent is to aggregate and categorize local feeds, then these newspapers are both prime content for Topix and a potential platform for a new targeted local business--not a bad plan. And if KRD and partners are willing to take a run at adding citizen journalism--watch out! So folks, maybe old media ain't so old anymore. P.S. Plus, this is disruptive to the other companies (and there are many) pitching their search and RSS services to newspaper partners, who now see 3 of the big ones locked up...and to the big aggregators who now find online news business are alive and kicking still.
The big annual newspaper industry conferences are this weekend -- Vin Crosbie explains why he won't be there and Pegasus News chimes in. Meanwhile, there will be moblogging (RSS) from the IFRA newspaper techniques team, and a blog from The Digital Edge of the NAA for and by conference participants. I read through the sessions and could not find anything about RSS, newsreaders, or social media. Or Craigslist, Tribe or Bakotopia. Or hyperlocal citizen journalism. Or local vertical search. Parallel universe?

Lucovsky: Building a Google OS

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Via Emergic.org, a pay-attention post from Mark Lucovsky, former Microsoft distinguished operating system architect, now Google engineer, on what it means to ship software: " I am not sure I believe anymore, that Microsoft 'knows how to ship software'. When a Microsoft engineer fixes a minor defect, makes something faster or better, makes an API more functional and complete, how do they "ship" that software to me? I know the answer and so do you... The software sits in a source code control system for a minimum of two years (significantly longer for some of the early Longhorn code)...(snip)..In many cases, particularly for users working in large corporations, they won't see the software for a year or more post RTM... When an Amazon engineer fixes a minor defect, makes something faster or better, makes an API more functional and complete, how do they "ship" that software to me? What is the lag time between the engineer completing the work, and the software reaching its intended customers? A good friend of mine investigated a performance problem one morning, he saw an obvious defect and fixed it. His code was trivial, it was tested during the day, and rolled out that evening. By the next morning millions of users had benefited from his work." In other words, speed of execution makes a huge difference in making a difference, and as Rich Skrenta so perceptively said, Google IS creating itself as a massive OS. And now they've got the guy to do it.
Search Engine Blog talks to Topix.net founder Rich Skrenta. Rich emphasizes that Topix strives to automate editorial functions in categorizing stories. Recognizing named entities challenges the machine first to be able to tell whether the story cites the movie star or the ordinary person with that name, and then to understand whether the story is actually about the person or just mentioning him or her in passing (this is a big flaw in Google news alerts.) Rich also talks about dmoz, the open directory, and says that "while directories were very interesting in the mid '90's, keyword search has eclipsed them as the main ways consumers find information on the Internet." And my favorite quote from Rich: "Search is a first step to full utilization of a world-sized corpus of encyclopedic information, combined with the full value that community participation in the content & commerce process can provide." A good read.

Rich Skrenta reports that AOL Local will be use Topix.net headlines on their new local search service. Susan sez: IMHO, Topix is a small company that is doing both the technology and the business right. Rock on, guys!
Hop Studios ( Travis Smith & Susannah Gardner) have redesigned 5 local LA-area newspaper web sites owned by Tribune via LATimes: The designs remind me of Topix.net, in a way, and have a nice organizational clarity--very blog-like and able to include more interactive features, I hope. Travis says: "The front page of one paper is only 19K -- 50K if you include all the graphics and style sheets." Nice.
From rojo's Kevin Burton:

Hoping to attract more online readers, The New York Times is paying to have its headlines featured in sections of Topix.net, an Internet startup that compiles news snippets from hundreds of Web sites.

The partnership, expected to be announced Thursday, represents a coup for Palo Alto-based Topix, which hopes to persuade other newspapers to buy featured positions it other sections of its Web site. Topix, founded in 2002, offers 150,000 different categories, divided by geography and a wide range of categories, including news, sports, entertainment, health and science. Talk about deep verticals! It's interesting that the Times is moving beyond syndication deals with the big guys (AOL, etc.) to the long tail, which is what Topix.net represents.

Gary Stein's talked to Rich Skrenta at Topix and reports on the "extra" Google Ad Sense information Topix is able to load into the JavaScript ad word tags, giving much more detailed individual user targeting to ad serving (like the site knows he's interested in publishing!) John Battelle reports on the new Google Ad Sense program and describes it as a move to an API and a platform/infrastructure--comparable to what's happened with eBay and Amazon's platform efforts spurring new businesses, etc.--The main story's here, but once again Battelle describes it on the most cogent manner. Update: Silicon Valley Watcher reports the new Google Adwords: Improved Adwords Conversion Tracking will " track conversions not just from Adwords, but also Overture, emails, banner ads, and all other sorts of online advertising campaigns. This allows the merchant to compare the campaigns against each other. " Wow!
Skrenta:" Topix.net has added news channels to track any stories for 2,500 privately-held startups, scanned from the 10,000 sources we're crawling. The tracking channel was designed in association with Bob Karr's LinkSV.com, which maintains the database of private company profiles which we're using for the automated news scan. There is also a related channel which tracks press releases from any of the same 2,500 startups. " topix.net/startups topix.net/startups/pr topix.net/vc And it's free.
Forbes story on how RSS syndication will disrupt existing news businesses. Quote: "By Internet standards RSS is ancient, invented circa 1997, but it is just now catching on, in part because of the millions of blogs constantly generating new content and in part because of new RSS search services like Feedster.com that sort through the missives like an e-mail reader. (snip) "RSS-based searchers Technorati, Topix, Feedster and DayPop look for instantly updated material, thus providing a different slice of the Web than Google does, one based on freshness rather than relevancy. Down the road, online advertising might mutate into something wrapped around RSS streams-if fewer people surf news sites or use traditional search services. Feedster has already started incorporating sponsored links with its RSS headlines."

Topix: World domination, deal 2

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Topix.net announced a new deal with Citysearch--they will provide local news stories and Citysearch will give them ad revenue (basically). This is the second major deal announced since the one with Ask Jeeves in September. ClickZ quotes Taek Kwon, Citysearch EVP of product and technology: "In tandem with extending the reach of our network of local advertisers through Topix.net's localized news pages, we see this as a great milestone in championing local content on the Internet." It's great to see Topix cutting more deals, but this agreement underscores what's wrong with the online newspaper business--as in why didn't one of the newspaper companies cut this deal first? Sometimes I feel online news is like an old dog--you kick it, but it doesn't move. Other times, I feel like people are trying really hard to move the online news business along--they're just not always hitting the best targets.
Rich Skrenta of Topix.net discusses both the percentage of readers using RSS clients and the popularity of specific clients. Some data from Rich on clicks per story for users of specific clients: Newsgator, 29% Feedster, 24% MyYahoo, 20% Intravnews., 4% Netnewswire. 4% Pluck, 3% Sharpreader, 3% Feedreader, 2% Feeddemon, 2% Firefox, 2%$ Bloglines, Rojo and Amphetadesk--three I use regularly--are all MIA from this list--as is Technorati, whi, Rich says, doesn't seem to be crawling Topix feeds. (why the H not?)

Copy this: BBC Newstracker

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Finally! BBC News has begin to integrate news and blog feeds along side published stories. Drawing on feed from Moreover,the staff's created a box to run with specific articles labeled From other news sites. Robert Andrews has a nice writeup of the new product, called Newstracker, and Heibo Hebig takes note as well. The BBC's model of complementing their product and user experience by linking out is a model that everyone in the online information business should look at closely. The BBC implementation shows one aspect of the power of syndication/RSS/XML and suggests ways that content can be repackaged dynamically with timeliness, influence, and relevance as factors. American publishers: How about some news entities be as brave as CNET and the BBC and open up your news experience using the new search & directory tools? Why not try giving the engaged audience what they want and adding some (additional) value to your online products? This is what intelligent users want--and if you don't provide it, they will spend less time on your site so they can get it elsewhere. Anyone who wants to talk about this, contact me. I'm obsessed.

Topix.net does portal deal with Ask.com

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In a sign that the next generation of search and directory is rapidly growing up comes the news that Topix.net is announcing a portal deal with Ask Jeeves tomorrow am. Ask Jeeves will integrate Topix.net search results and incorporate their search algorithms, providing the site with a richer data set of local news.

New and noteworthy

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--Topix.net is building out their categories and content bundles--check out their Gadgets feed, and the new education hierarchy(this is great!). The home page has some tweaks, too. -- Firefox is out and getting tons of downloads. I haven't spent enough time with it, but my Mozilla bud, Rafael Ebron, is proud. Live bookmarks sound very useful. --The Newspaper Association of America has released the findings from a study called Targeting Teen Consumers. Intended for newspaper executives, it has good data for all of us interested in this audience. Coastsider is a new(ish) local site for Montara, Half Moon Bay and other coastal towns south of San Francisco. Mediasavvy's Barry Parr runs the site.
Vin Crosbie's done an analysis of Google news sources for a project, and generously shares the results on his blog. Vin says "Although Google spiders more than 4,500 news sources, only about dozen account for the vast majority of stories on Google News. And two of those dozen predominant sources are owned and operated by the U.S. and Chinese governments." He then runs the stats showing the breakdowns. The comments on this post add to the discussion, with one poster writing "Google has a hierarchy of stories from a certain number of media outlets. That's the way most news services work. I think if you drilled down, you'd be surprised at how much content is actually repetition of the same AP stories anyway." and another saying 'What's interesting to me is that Google News manages not to be completely dominated by the power law, since half of the sources aren't in the top 20. " As Vin would undoubtedly agree, it is hard to read this post and not think about Topix.net, which prides itself on indexing a wide variety of sources.
Topix.net just posted a new release of their site that features a new "algorithmic story editing technology", new semantic category filters, a redesigned and expanded home page, and RSS feeds of search results pages. I asked their CEO, Rich Skrenta(another former Netscape/AOLer) to explain a bit more about this new editing technology. He wrote me: "We're using the category information on stories to drive the frontpage selection. Overall, the function is to look for the "biggest"stories (per NewsRank) for the day, and show them. But we are up/down biasing certain semantic categories. Health +10%, Business -10%,celebs +10%, sex but only if it's G-rated, lurid/crime/disaster is a bonus, sports is sent off to the Sports section of our site,unless it's a really big sports story, or about the Olympics....that sort of thing. There actually are a lot of rules in the mix,and we're still tuning it. But my personal experience is that we've been able to make the mix much more _interesting_ in the process." Skrenta also writes on his blog: "We want to de-homogenize the news selection; instead of averaging down, we want Topix.net to find and bring back the most interesting, compelling (and sometimes the oddest) stories from the deep corners of the web. Stories that won't show up on other sites." This is really great, but I'd also like the team to bring in an interface designer to help in the next rev. While the easy-to-read presentation of the headlines and individual stories looks great, the new design crams every more info onto every page, resulting in a degree of clutter that's paralyzing (does anyone really want a front page, for example, with more than 100 story lnks on it--plus navigation, text ads, banners ads, footers and so on? Skrenta and co. would do well to explore how a multiple page format, perhaps with pop-up windows or DHTML or java-scripted collapsible views, could make such an onslaught on information more manageable. Also, the level of freshness and relevancy in such a broad range of topics varies widely, depending on the flood of articles available--a Sunday night look at the page for Britney Spears had very few fresh stories; the page for South Orange, NJ was thin and pushing a July 26th story to the top made it look out of date (it wasn't), while the Mary-Kate Olsen and San Jose, CA pages were full of new info. (One of the nicest features of the new design is the new nav bar on the right, which offers pop-up links to previous queries/pages within the main sections--this elegant, efficient method keeps confusion down and drives more clicks.) Having said that, the new release is basically great--and makes me a continuing fan of Topix. Eager to see what they do next.

Focus on: AOL

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Where is AOL Today? Those dark days seem hard to get over for AOL- -news yesterday that the parent company is auditing AOL Europe suggests that the SEC probe--which became public about two years ago--is still dragging on. This means that Time Warner's hopes of spinning off AOL ain't gonna happen anytime soon. On another note, TW vice chairman Don Logan, told analysts that AOL.com is going to be built out--much like Netscape was supposed to be back in 2001--as an a la carte destination for web surfers. This strategy, long a favorite of AOL Programming EVP Jim Bankoff (disclosure: I worked for him) runs parallel--and is presumably complementary--to AOL Broadband's focus on developing premium entertainment services--reportedly the core vision for AOL Broadband EVP and GM (and former BMG powerhouse) Kevin Conroy. Finally press reports that AOL's dial-up subs continue to tank, even as the online advertising business rebounds. For the first time in three years, AOL's ad sales have increased, rising 23% per cent, with a 2% revenue growth, for a total $2.2B number. Staffers continually say things are getting better, and "we're turning the big ship around." Given the dark days of 2002 and 03, that's gotta be true. Furthermore, as a one-stop shop AOL is without peer, and it's virus-checking qualities have kept me on its email system long beyond when it otherwise made sense. On the other hand. AOL will need to continue to leverage its huge size and still-impressive audience reach to avoid falling into the big tail/little brain universe known as too-little, too late.  What should they do?  IMHO, to avoid being fodder  for the (next) corporate write-down, the company needs to continue to streamline the service, bring some fresh viewpoints into the news partnership (hey,   CNN is teaming with Technorati--why didn't AOL News try something different this year?), and continue to simplify and streamline their offerings--finding the good stuff that isn't promotion of the day is STILL a major challenge. If I ran the circus I'd:  -- Keep improving news: Use Technorati Feedster and PubSub like tools to add a Vox Populi element to the news coverage and the member comments; --Team up with Topix.net to offer micro-local news and blog content for AOL.com, the My services, and the Digital Cities brands --Create a strategy to integrate ecommerce referral for major AOL partner brands into the blogging, home page, photo album and community tools--and tie to it to the  member incentives and loyalty programs --Develop a blogging/social media strategy tied to the wonderful broadband entertainment/sports coverage--and the community tools/member base. --See how all these programs could be repurposed on the web to make AOL.com a destination competitive with Yahoo, MSN, MSNBC.com, Google/ Blogger/ Gmail, and so on.   (Disclosure: Sound impassioned? Worked there for almost 4 years, was a biz partner for 8, and admire the great number of really smart , nice people working their tails off there now despite the (sometimes)horrendous corporate culture.)
We're just a week away from the DNC, and nothing in the online news space looks very fresh or very different--yet. Six months ago, I wrote two articles for the Digital Edge of the Newspaper Association of America about the 2004 elections and online news sites.  One piece focused on the ad side, the other on the edit. In both, site managers and editors discussed what the kind of coverage they hoped to offer for the 2004 race. None of it seems to have happened.  With the idea it is time to get with the program, here are some things I'd like to see news organizations do:  -- The New York Times or the Washington Post and Technorati or Feedster=Vox Populi Why don't we see a major media outlet that will file lots of stories during the election find a way to work with Technorati or Feedster so they can have almost real-time links reflecting people?s comments on--and links to--the stories--right on their web site?   Advance Publications or Tribune and Topix.net=Local depth Why doesn't a large regional newspaper player, like Advance or Trib, team up with Topix to provide a more complete index of local news stories related to election topics? This would be a great way to complement their coverage--if they could stand linking out to other entities, of course.     MTV and Orkut and Live Journal=Community Why doesn't Rock the Vote tape into the social network space and affiliate with a large, viral network and a youth-oriented blogging service to add more resonance, depth, and community to their program?     Fox News or CNN with Blogger and Picasa or Typepad=Citizen Journalism Why doesn't one of the larger networks and their local affiliates work with a large blogging service and their photo/mobblogging capabilities to create local citizen/journal reporters who can moblog local campaign and election events and do man on the street interviews?     ALL news entities with Internet Archive and Creative Commons licensing Why not create an open source media archive for the 2004 election? What if all the major news players decided to cooperate with the Internet Archive and build a multimedia archive for the 2004 election season?  And grant a Creative Commons license for use of the materials?   Yahoo or MSN or AOL plus Bloglines or Rojo = Election newsreader Why doesn't a news-focused portal site team up with one of the new web-based newsreader services to offer a customized and branded newsreader customized with political feeds--a My Yahoo or MSN or My AOL for the elections?       Update: This post has sparked much discussion and links --thank you, everyone! For a look at the discussion, check out Technorati or Feedster.      
What do you get when you cross the Open Directory taxonomy and data with a Topix.net-style presentation of results data (as opposed to just links?) It's ZURL, Topix's newest product, and a damn interesting one at that. ZURL--billed the last URL you'll ever need (very cute)is a "revised" presentation of Open Directory data,arranged--like Topix--in a news-style format(see Drink.. Wine..for an example) The directory is a little bare at launch, but there are lots of pages in News-- Journalism, blogs, 2004 Presidential Election, and the potentially fascinating Obits, for starters. Also check out the local city pages, like Palo Alto. (If it wasn't clear before that one of Topix's business goals must surely be to partner with local newspapers, this implementation of Zurl makes it clear.) Also check out People--Zurls builds pages for dozens of celebs, from Laurence Oliver to Basement Jaxx (Via Skrenta) Side note: It's especially heartening to see Skrenta & co. apply their smarts to keeping the Open Directory relevant. Acquired by Netscape, the Open Directory was the foundation for most search taxonomies,but never supported by the corporate parent(AOL) in any significant way. This implementation of its data moves it toward new relevance.

Google files: $2.7 Billion

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To think they started only 4 years ago--and now the company's filing a $2.7B IPO. Money's got a story, as does everyone else in the blogosphere. Psst, Feedster's got the Google IPO watch. And Google news has stories as well., as does Topix.
Earlier today, a publisher was showing me the web site stats and describing how traffic has soared. "Do you know where they are coming from?" I asked. His expression became more sober. "Well, that's one of the problems" he replied. "We have lots of information, but we don't know that." IWe agreed would be useful to know how many people were coming in as a result of a news search to read a specific story, how many came via a headline on the home page or other key entry point, such as sports main, and then where they went--did they read one story and leave, or were they recirculated? And if yes, to where? The conversation went on in much more depth and got into questions of branding, focus, and strategy (with revenue as the backdrop for everything of course). We parted, agreeding to talk further. I was reminded of the relevance of these questions to many newspaper sites when I read a post on the online news list from the Albuquerque Journal's Donn Friedman's on how readers enter his site: 28% from a search; 16% from a Google search and a reply from journalism prof Eric Meyer saying that newspaper sites are commoditizing search and "trivializing" their content. I think I'd put it another way--in a world where sophisticated search tools make it easy to pull up your content, how do online news sites prepare for readers who may bec oming in as the result of a specific link in an aggregated list? T his kind of user case makes a news story much closer to a blog post than to a traditional article, in that it is discovered as part of a linking strategy evoked as the result of a query (I am thinking of topix and Google News here). So how best to acquire these users, or at least, recirculate them into the parts of the site?
As we all know, Google is collecting a lot of data. And it's more and more personalized. Esther Dyson does a good job articulating further ways in which Google's big, targeted data sets can create new markets (and by the way, it is great to see her posting more!) Esther writes: "While right now Google is collecting information through AdWords for targeting, there's no reason it couldn't start using advertiser-entered data for display as well, as it already does with data feeds in Froogle. Some companies may start sending these new kinds of feeds expressly, while others might fill out a slightly more complex , domain-specific form when they advertise. Then hotels could start to compete on the basis of their swimming pool hours." As Esther points out, Google is building the ability to offer more precisely targeted results, both as responses to queries, and as ads. When you think about Google refining this capability and then syndicating it to partners, wow.....that's another way to be the OS, as Skrenta says, for sure. Of course, Yahoo wants to have the same capabilities (don't we all?)
Skrenta groks Google's master plan. From a guy who helped create The Open Directory, this rings true.
Missed a good post by T Jacobi--picked up by deejecooley's BloggerJack Reporter on new and upcoming blog aggregrators, filters, and search engines, along the lines of topix, kinja, and the just redesigned and revamped Technorati. Jacobi wonders if AI tools will help filter all the news into a manageable order. It does seem like we are on the verge of seeing some new product launches and some 2.0 releases of recent projects. I'm predicting the entropy of building out users for these new tools follows two models: 1) integration as aplets into existing audience bases (large news sites, ecommerce sites, entertainment sites, for example)--making the user experience better and more relevant; 2) New services and destinations--products that offer capabilities that are unique and useful enough you want to sign up right then and keep coming back. Google's success--among others--was to simultaneously follow both these models--to make distribution deals with AOL and Yahoo for example, and also keep building and improving Google.com as a destination. In our supersized corporate world, small players often fear being derailed if they partner with (and service) the big guys, but the path to building a core audience base of 1 MM or more on your own can take more than a year, even for the best new product/service. For that reason, I applaud companies that are able to focus themselves to play the game both ways--to build independent, stand-alone products and services, and also find ways to partner that educate consumers, expose their product, and start grow the business (aka some $$). And I am looking forward eagerly to some of the next generation products about to hit the market.

Vin Crosbie likes Topix

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Vin sez: "... Topix probably produces a better news Web site for many localities than those localities own newspapers do. (snip) "One of the advantages Topix has is it gathers content from multiple media companies. For example, a newspaper's Web site has content primarily from its print edition, while Topix has content from that newspaper, other newspapers that might cover the same town, and all the TV and radio stations and business journals covering that town. It could be a formidable competitor. The major disadvantage Topix faces is in marketing. It's easy for a daily newspaper to market itself in its own community, but not so easy for Topix to do so."
Congrats to the Topix.net team for their official launch. If you haven't checked this service out, you should--it presents search results on news sources in an easy to read newspaper format.

Search :Ethics of scraping metadata

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Adrian Holovaty's s got a post about Topix, a news aggregator that presents search results in a newspaper-like format. He's incensed at their user policy, which restricts usage of the service to individual----at the same time that they are making their money packaging links and placing search results ads on those pages. He says "I admire the Topix.net proprietors for their gall. But their hypocrisy is undeniably crass." A commentator asks: "Is this any different than Google?"
Rich Skrenta says that Topix has added RSS feeds to all their structured data searches. He writes "We have a feed for every ZIP code in the US, a feed for every public company, a feed for every sports team, a feed for every movie star, band and musician...and more." He also says, "I told Dave Winer about it ... but he flamed me. He said I had used the wrong version of RSS, and would never henceforth utter the name 'Topix'. Sigh. (so much for perl -MCPAN -e 'install XML::RSS')" My net access was unbelievably slow last night, so I never got to use my newsreader, but I do plan to add some of Topix's feeds later today and check'em out.

Topix.net: Where Local News Rules

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Topix, a new web-based news service, launched this week and was promptly TechDirted and Metafiltered. Created by a cadre of ex-AOL Shopping/Netscape Search engineers, who also--not incidentally--were core members of the team launched the Open Directory Project back in 1998, Topix automatically generates over 150,000 keyword based news pages, each loading automatically with chronologically ordered news sources. Similar to Google News in many respects, Topix is built on a detailed, custom taxonomy that classifies every story according to content type and geographic location. Focusing on 4,000 news sources (including a few blogs).Topix offers users the ability to track updated news on very specific terms;the more localized, the better. One way to take a look at what Topix offers compared to Google News is to run two different queries and check results. First, Britney Spears, one of the top ten search terms of 2003. The top story this morning on Topix.net's Britney Spears page is from the Detroit Free Press and is entitled Stop Britney Before She Goes Too Far ; the next story is from KSAN, a local news station, and is about Britney's new video. Google New's Britney page , in contrast, leads with Canadian site Chart Attack's story Britney Spears Brings Her Darkest Secrets to Canada , one of many about an upcoming concert tour. The top story doesn't even show up on Google New's results list for Britney news. Next, let's run a search for a particular place--South Orange, New Jersey, where I lived on the East Coast. The Topix.net page has eight stories drawn from local news sources and run in the past 20 hours. While none of them are specifically about South Orange, they are about events happening within a 5-mile radius, and therefore, of interest. The Google News page has 15 stories, none of which are from today, and several of which focus on Seton Hall's college sports competitions. Only one story, running in the New York Times on Dec. 25th, is specifically focused on a South Orange topic. There's no question that while the Britney query results on Google have more sizzle, the local town search on Topix has far more relevance than the Google page. One of the key differences is that Google New's search algorithms are keyword driven, offering up the most relevant instances including a specific term. Topix.net'ss keywords, on the other hand, are mapped to both content type and geolocation, allowing the service to weight results in a different way. When Google launched back in the day, users had to learn the different between a relevance-driven search algorithm and an edited directory, it will be interesting to see how users distinguish between Google News and Topix-generated news pages. Summary: One of the best and most interesting launched I've seen in a while, but they need to put the pedal to the metal in terms of improved user features, navigation, alerts, and RSS/newsreader feeds to fulfill their potential and gain a substantial user base. Also, early indications are that--like about.com--Google results will be an important entry point for them for topic-driven search queries. See Social Software News and Drink Wine for examples of the kinds of pages Google is likely to discover. Note: I did an interview with CEO Rich Skrenta yesterday, which I will blog later today--more details on the search algorithm and the business plan to come in that piece.
Susan Mernit
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